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02-13-2021, 10:53 AM
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Woo-Hoo! COVID
Vaccination #2 is in the books! (OK...arm.)
No reaction outside of a sore arm, but it’s only been 90 minutes.
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02-13-2021, 10:55 AM
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Congrats! I'll be first in line when my group is up!
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02-13-2021, 11:22 AM
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I'm sorry, but I don't trust them. I don't trust the vaccine due to the lack of testing and time to see what kind of side effects come from it.(The FDA used to wait years before releasing new vaccines so they could do proper studies).
I don't trust the makers. Pfizer is in league with Bill Gates. Gates financed 5 vaccine manufacturing facilities. The Gates Foundation is the originator of the ID2020 plan. (Look it up)
Moderna has all sorts of trust issues. Look up Hydrogel.
I don't trust the Government push or the main stream media who have produced a level of fear in this country not seen since the 1930s in Europe. They have proven themselves unworthy of the name 'journalist'. Beware who you listen to and from where you get your information!!
I will join a large and growing segment of the population who will never let this vaccine enter my body.
Just so you know, I had the virus back in September. Mild fever, lack of energy, loss of taste/smell. Two weeks later I was back at work. I'm 66.
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02-13-2021, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dusty Ol' Man
I'm sorry, but I don't trust them. I don't trust the vaccine due to the lack of testing and time to see what kind of side effects come from it.(The FDA used to wait years before releasing new vaccines so they could do proper studies).
I don't trust the makers. Pfizer is in league with Bill Gates. Gates financed 5 vaccine manufacturing facilities. The Gates Foundation is the originator of the ID2020 plan. (Look it up)
Moderna has all sorts of trust issues. Look up Hydrogel.
I don't trust the Government push or the main stream media who have produced a level of fear in this country not seen since the 1930s in Europe. They have proven themselves unworthy of the name 'journalist'. Beware who you listen to and from where you get your information!!
I will join a large and growing segment of the population who will never let this vaccine enter my body.
Just so you know, I had the virus back in September. Mild fever, lack of energy, loss of taste/smell. Two weeks later I was back at work. I'm 66.
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The technology of encapsulating a bit of RNA in lipids to make a vaccine is not new, and has been proven to be safe and effective for the flu and HIV, and probably others of which I'm not aware. It's solid and trustworthy science.
I'm glad your health effects were relatively mild. This virus has an extremely wide range of direct and side effects that run the gamut of impact.
My sister-in-law and her husband and two, college-aged kids went skiing last February and were unknowingly exposed. - My brother-in-law (55 years old, a runner who takes very good care of himself) was sicker than hell for 3 weeks, then was recovering for another two months or so.
- My sister-in-law lost the senses of taste and smell. That's it.
- My niece had no symptoms whatsoever, but has tested positive for antibodies. All three of them donate regularly to help severely-infected folks.
- My nephew is the one who has done everything wrong - hangs out with his friends, went on Spring break to Florida, etc., etc. Him? Apparently nothing. No symptoms, no antibodies. Nothing.
Seemingly healthy, young people die from heart attacks. Some get lung damage that requires transplants. Neither Bill Gates, the pharmie companies, nor the media played any role in the deaths of almost a half-million people in this country.
I lived in England when the thalidomide tragedy hit the fan - drugs given to mothers-to-be to calm morning sickness led to the birth of thousands of babies with severe birth defects. Control is much better now.
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02-28-2021, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dusty Ol' Man
I'm sorry, but I don't trust them. I don't trust the vaccine due to the lack of testing and time to see what kind of side effects come from it.(The FDA used to wait years before releasing new vaccines so they could do proper studies).
I don't trust the makers. Pfizer is in league with Bill Gates. Gates financed 5 vaccine manufacturing facilities. The Gates Foundation is the originator of the ID2020 plan. (Look it up)
Moderna has all sorts of trust issues. Look up Hydrogel.
I don't trust the Government push or the main stream media who have produced a level of fear in this country not seen since the 1930s in Europe. They have proven themselves unworthy of the name 'journalist'. Beware who you listen to and from where you get your information!!
I will join a large and growing segment of the population who will never let this vaccine enter my body.
Just so you know, I had the virus back in September. Mild fever, lack of energy, loss of taste/smell. Two weeks later I was back at work. I'm 66.
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Enjoy your conspiracy theories.
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03-19-2021, 12:57 PM
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Got my first dose yesterday, precisely 90 days post covid +. Now about 20 hours later feels like I got hit by a freight train hahaha
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03-19-2021, 01:09 PM
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My side effect after both was severe fatigue. I could hardly keep my eyes open. After a couple weeks it subsided.
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03-20-2021, 03:38 PM
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Well, I am no longer looking forward to the second dose in April.
This first one was pretty rough, yesterday the body aches and chills turned seriously gnarly. Back to normal today. My covid infection in December was far more benign than this hah.
Lucky those of you with mild immune response!
One more thing: those of you concerned about someone picking out your produce, etc, just give it a try a couple times, you might be surprised. I've had mostly good luck with it over the past year. My inner lazy bum hopes the delivery or curbside pickup continues post pandemic
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03-20-2021, 04:09 PM
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Ray, I'm glad your daughter is doing okay now. kvet, sorry to hear about your side effects.
My husband got his second (Pfizer) yesterday morning. So far, only a sore arm, which he said is a little worse than the first shot. That's similar to my experience when I had both of mine (Moderna) a while back.
We've been doing curbside pickup of groceries for a year now. In that time, there were maybe three or four times I was inside the store, usually because I was picking up a prescription and the store didn't have curbside pickup for those. I do not like someone else picking out my groceries for me, especially meat and produce. Doing my own grocery shopping is one of the biggest things I miss. I actually did my own shopping once after I had both my shots, double-masked and with protective eyewear, and I was thinking maybe I would start doing that once in a while, but now the state I live in currently has the biggest uptick in case numbers, percentage-wise, in the whole country. Argh! I'm so tired of this. (As I know we all are.)
Being an introvert, the social distancing aspect doesn't bother me, but I do miss the in-person orchid club meetings, since I have a few I'd like to donate to the raffle table.
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04-13-2021, 06:49 PM
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I understand where you'd be skeptical based upon the abundance of hyperbole and polarizing viewpoints on the matter. The profit driven healthcare system and those who have a stake in aspects of it are enough to make anyone suspect. You also forgot to list J&J's asbestos contaminated talc baby powder that they lied about for years (not conjecture, and recently upheld in court). None of these corporation are in the right all the time.
But... to be frank it's not possible that there is concerted effort to do anything untoward through formulation, with 4 different technologies, and over 200 formulas put into trials, 8 being used, and innumerable amount of scientist involved. The effectivity is great across the board and side effects largely mitigated.
What's more is only a small amount of the global population will have the privileged access to vaccination in the next year or two. Not much a plan for a mass mind control conspiracy. Sadly the global poor, most in need, won't likely see the vaccine because wealthy nations have bought many times their population in vaccine to use as leverage.
That is the real tragedy.
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Originally Posted by Dusty Ol' Man
I'm sorry, but I don't trust them. I don't trust the vaccine due to the lack of testing and time to see what kind of side effects come from it.(The FDA used to wait years before releasing new vaccines so they could do proper studies).
I don't trust the makers. Pfizer is in league with Bill Gates. Gates financed 5 vaccine manufacturing facilities. The Gates Foundation is the originator of the ID2020 plan. (Look it up)
Moderna has all sorts of trust issues. Look up Hydrogel.
I don't trust the Government push or the main stream media who have produced a level of fear in this country not seen since the 1930s in Europe. They have proven themselves unworthy of the name 'journalist'. Beware who you listen to and from where you get your information!!
I will join a large and growing segment of the population who will never let this vaccine enter my body.
Just so you know, I had the virus back in September. Mild fever, lack of energy, loss of taste/smell. Two weeks later I was back at work. I'm 66.
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