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Old 04-06-2009, 10:29 PM
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Default Spring 2009 Project - Rejected Plants

These plants will NOT be used in our current project.
The information attached can be very helpful though


All plants listed in this section are no longer being considered, either for size, temp or availability issues...but might make somebody a nice TC :


Laelia bradei
IOSPE PHOTOS
*This one was a big "hit" in the chat room but I can't find it in Canada *(?) and Andy has only 12

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Phalaenopsis schilleriana - EU/USA/CAN
IOSPE PHOTOS

leaves 6-18*, spike 36"*
days 84-91*, nights 71-73

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Phalaenopsis bastianii - EU, O.H., n/a in CAN*
IOSPE PHOTOS

wide 12-18",
days 80-83, nights 66-67

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Phalaenopsis equestris - EU, CAN, O.H.
IOSPE PHOTOS

leaves 6-8", spikes 12-18"*
days 85-91*, nights 71-73

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Phalaenopsis amboinensis
- EU, CAN, O.H.
IOSPE PHOTOS

leaves 10", spikes 18"*,
days 85-89*, nights 72-74
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Aerangis biloba (mounted or potted) O.H., CAN, n/a in EU (?)
IOSPE PHOTOS

leaves 7", spikes up to 16"*,
days 78-88*, nights 63-68

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Aerangis kotschyana (mounted) - O.H., EU, n/a in CAN
IOSPE PHOTOS

leaves up to 12", spikes 12-18"*,
days 90-92*, nights 64

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Paphiopedilum hainanensis
- n/a in EU or CAN
IOSPE PHOTOS

*available in EU under the name Paph appletonianum

leaf span up to 18"*,
days 86-88*, nights 69-70
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Comparettia falcata
IOSPE PHOTOS

**I've found it in Canada at Paramount and only in "Very Limited" quantities. It is also at a few places in the EU but I can't find it anywhere in the U.S.

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Bulbophyllum vitiense - EU, O.H., n/a in CAN*
IOSPE PHOTOS

no OW info but it's an intermediate-hot grower*

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Dendrobium rigidum
IOSPE PHOTOS

size: mini
temps: days 88-89*, nights 75

Available in EU, CAN, Andy's

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Dendobium parishii - EU, CAN, Oak Hill (O.H.)
IOSPE PHOTOS

*can get big*

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Eria clausa - n/a in EU or CAN*
IOSPE PHOTOS

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Cattleya aurantiaca - EU, CAN, O.H.
IOSPE PHOTOS

*can get big*

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Gongora tricolor - EU, CAN, O.H.
IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 20"* tall, day temps 85-91*, nights 74-76

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Cattleya warneri EU/USA/CAN
(can get large!)

Size: 8-20"*

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Plectrelminthus cudatus EU/USA/CAN
(can get large! - warm to hot)

bulbs to 6", leaves to 12" , spikes to 14-31"*
day 85-86*, night 68
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Encyclia fragrans EU/CAN/USA
(CAN: also in this page The Orchid Shop - Home)

size 16"*,
days 77-79, nights 61-63, can adapt up to 6 degrees warmer or cooler
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Cattleya schilleriana
IOSPE PHOTOS

size: 3 1/2- 5 1/2"
temps: days 79-82, nights 67-68

Available in EU, CAN, and either a $15 seedling or a $50.00 NBS in the U.S*

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Tuberolabium kotoense aka Saccolabium quisumbingii

IOSPE PHOTOS

size: OW says 0.8-1.2" but mine has about a 6" leaf span
temps: days 84-88*, nights 72

Available in EU, CAN, U.S.

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Cattleya forbesii
IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 4-8"
temps: days 82-84, nights 70-72

Only seedlings available in Canada

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Barkeria spectabilis
IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 2-6"
Temps: days 71-72*, nights 54
*this is the coolest temp range for this plant, can adapt 4-5 degrees warmer

not available in Canada

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Phalaenopsis braceana
IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: mini
Temps: days 73-76*, nights 63-64

*does NOT tolerate hot summer temps


Only seedlings available in Canada

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Thank you to Camille for putting together the following information:

Orchids that don't meet criteria or not available:
*Cochleanthes amazonica - seedlings in CA
*Maxillaria variabilis - Not in CA, too big
*Sophronitis cernua - Not in CA
*Cattleya forbesii - seedlings in CA
*Barkeria spectabilis - not in CA
*Angraecum didieri - too expensive in CA ($30)
*Phal braceana - only seedlings in CA
*Helcia sanguinolenta - Not in USA, somewhat cool grower
*Epidendrum fragrans - too big
*Maxillaria cucullata - available to all, but too big

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Phal pulchra

IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: moderate*

*leaves are usually around 6" but there have been some 12" leaves reported.

Temps: 85-86** days, 68** nights

**Too warm?

Available?

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Dendrobium densiflorum

IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 12-18"*

*Too large

Temps: 81-87** days, 70-71 nights**

**Too warm

Paramount--nfs $25.00 (may get too large) CAN
Andy's--bloom size stick mounted $35.00 USA
EU 2 vendors

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Dendrobium formosum

IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 9-18" *

*Too large

Temps: days 67-70, nights 54-55

There is a large section of information in Orchidwiz regarding this plant. It seems there is a bit of confusion between it and 2 others (Den formosum var giganteum and Den infundibulum). If you happen to get one of the others (through mislabeling or wrong info), then the conditions would be different and could die within 2-3 years due to stress.

I don't think one as risky as this should be used as a project plant

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Masdevallia pyxis

IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 3.5-9"

Temps: 71-73* days, 51* nights

I think this is too cool a grower for us to use.

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Maxillaria cucullata

IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: 20" *

*Too tall

Temps: 70-72* days, 54-56* nights

*These are the coolest temperatures for this plant to grow. This plant can adapt 6-8 degrees warmer than shown.

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Phalaenopsis parishii

IOSPE PHOTOS

Size: mini

Temps: 79-81 days, 71 nights

Available in EU and CAN, I only see it at Parkside in the U.S
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Laelia praestans (now known as Sophronitis praestans)

http://orchidspecies.com/laelspectabilis.htm

Size: 3-6.5"

Temps: days 75-78, 63-64 nights

Paramount--nfs $24.00 CAN
SBOE-- no size, starts $25.00 USA
EU Botanische Orchideen

*We've decided against this one due to it's high humidity requirements.

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Old 04-16-2009, 02:30 PM
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Default Some of the following may be duplicates...

but with all the work that Charlie put into the social group list, I didn't want to see it disappear:

cabnc
Trying to use the Proj 6 list was driving me crazy - so I put it here in alphabetical order. I left the numbers (1 - 30) if someone needs a quick cross reference. And I will add more plants as they pass review on availability, growing temp, and size.

Charlie

27. Aerangis citrata
IOSPE PHOTOS
Mini; flwr small 3/4"-1", 12-20 white, fragrant (lemon), waxy

Light: 1200-1800fc, needs shade to flower
Temp: low 80s day / mid 60s night, can adapt 5-7 degrees warmer or 8-10 degrees cooler

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Aerangis mystacidii
IOSPE PHOTOS
6" leaf span, dk grn to org-grn lvs, multiple 10" spikes w/ 2 to 12 creamy white starry 2" flowers w/trailing 4" nectary, fragrant [lily of the valley]; Canada (Paramount)
Light: 800-2000 fc
Temps: high 60s day / mid-high 50s night
*Even plants from lower elevations, which can take somewhat warmer temps, usually don't top 80 degrees
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24. Angraecum didieri
IOSPE PHOTOS
8"; flwr 2"-2 1/2" white, solitary
Light: 1000-2000 fc, low light in winter, higher in summer, no direct light
Temp: low 80s day / mid 60s night

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20. Bulbophyllum ambrosia
IOSPE PHOTOS
easy grower; rambling w/ 1" narrow bulbs topped w/ single dk green 2" leaf, multiple 3" spikes bear single 1" blooms, crystalline ivory w/ maroon-red longitudinal striped sepals, intricately shaped white lip w/ red and yellow markings; sweet fragrance
Light: 1500-2300 fc
Temp: mid 80s day / high 60s-low 70s night, can go 4-6 degrees cooler
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14. Bulbophyllum dearii
IOSPE PHOTOS
compact, round 1" bulbs along a short rhizome, topped w/ single 5" dk green paddle-shaped leaf, short inflorescence w/ tesselated golden orange 3" flower;
Light: 1800-2500 fc , slightly shaded
Temp: low 80s day / mid 60s night

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5. Bulbophyllum rothschildianum (Stinky)
IOSPE PHOTOS
8" tall, 8" spike, 5-6" blooms
Light: 1500-2500 fc, grow in light as high as possible just short of burning leaves. Grows well in low light but flowers more in higher light
Temp: 80 day / mid 60s night
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21. Bulbophyllum sumatranum
IOSPE PHOTOS
Small
Light: 2000-3000 fc
Temp: mid 70s day / high 50s- low 60s night
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Comparettia falcata
IOSPE PHOTOS
Found from Cuba to northern S. America as a small, warm to cool growing epiphyte w/ oblong pseudobulb w/ elliptic single leaf, blooms late winter/spring/summer on newly mature pseudobulb, basal, 12" or longer spike w/ up to 8 1" deep magenta flowers held above the leaves.
Paramount Orchids
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4. Dendrobium aberrans
IOSPE PHOTOS
2-8" tall. 2-3" spike
3" bulbs have 2 to 3 oval dark green 1" leaves, numerous wiry apical spikes w/ 6 long lasting 3/4" blooms, flat circular flowers are creamy white with pure white bi-lobed lip,
Light: 2000-3000 fc
Temp: high 70s - low 80s day / low 60s night
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Dendrobium cuthbertsonii
IOSPE PHOTOS
1" warty leaves / stems produce long-lasting funnel-shaped 1" brilliant, variable colored blooms that range from orange, red, purple, and pink with occasional bi-colored forms, the plant dwarfing flowers keep a pristine appearance for up to a whopping 8 months!!! difficult to grow but well worth the effort.
Available Andy's (USA), Jacamar (Canada)
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16. Dendrobium harveyanum
IOSPE PHOTOS
Small
Light: 2500-3500 fc, as much light as possible just short of burning the leaves, some shading spring-autumn
Temp: low-mid 80s day / high 60s- low 80s night.
Spring is warmest time of year in the habitat, high 80s - low 90s day and high 50s - low 60s night
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Dendrobium linguiforme

IOSPE PHOTOS
called the "tongue orchid" because of its tongue-shaped 1" leaves, creeping growth habit, spring bloomer produces a myriad of 6" feathery flower sprays of 1" creamy-white spidery flowers, intensely fragrant
Bright to Full Sun; 2750-3750 Footcandles (midday shade required)
Intermediate; 55F min. to 85F max.
Available Andy's (USA), Paramount (Canada)
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22. Dendrobium loddigesii
IOSPE PHOTOS
Small, rambler
Light: 2000-3000 fc, can be difficult to bloom under florescent lights
Temp: mid 70s day / high 60s night
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Dendrobium rigidum

IOSPE PHOTOS

drought tolerant creeping pendulous stems produce a single thick succulent 1" leaf which is gray-green spotted with purple when grown bright, short spikes with numerous clusters of charming 3/4" flowers, sepals and petals are creamy-white and spreading, lip is bright red, very easy grower, fragrant and free-flowering
Tolerant of dry conditions & cool nights.
Bright; 2500-3500 Footcandles (very bright indirect light)
Warm,Intermediate to Cool;45F min. to 98F max.(tolerant of extremes,favoring warm)
Available Andy's (USA), Orchids in Our Tropics (Canada)
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23. Dendrobium tetragonum
IOSPE PHOTOS
Mini, Small
Light: 1500-3000 fc. Some growers say 60% shade, others say low Phal light and still others say bright works best.
Temp: high 70s day / low 60s night
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Dendrochilum wenzelii
IOSPE PHOTOS
This is a small to medium sized, warm growing Philippine epiphytic species in forests at elevations of 500 to 1000 meters with tapered pseudobulbs carrying a single, apical, leathery leaf that blooms on a semi-arching inflorescence that arises on a new growth with many [30] crowded flowers occuring in the late winter and early spring.

Available in US, Orchids in Our Tropics, EU
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Dracula lotax

IOSPE PHOTOS
'Clown Orchid', narrow clumping leaves 3" tall, short horizontal basal spikes carry a single 2-1/2" flower, the white sepals with long red tails are fused together at the base forming a face which is covered with dense short white hairs, the shrunken dark tipped petals form eyes around the column and lip which together look like a nose and mouth
Shade; 500-1500 Footcandles (indirect low light,slight shadowing)
Intermediate; 55F min. to 85F max.
Available Andy's (USA), Orchids in Our Tropics (Canada)

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12. Haraella retrocalla aka odorata
IOSPE PHOTOS
Mini
miniature twig epiphyte, Phalaenopsis-like growth habit with pendant 2" leaves, short spikes produce consecutive charming chartreuse 1" blooms with a ruby red spotted lip, nearly ever-blooming, easy grower, heavily fragrant, likes to grow moist

Light: 2000-3000 fc / no midday sun
Temp: high 70s day / low 60s night

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17. Jumellea comorensis
IOSPE PHOTOS
Found as a small sized, cool to warm growing, epiphytic, monopodial orchid on the island of Grand Comore at elevations of 500 meters on rough barked trees in very wet forests with good air movement and moderate light. This species has branched and pendant, somewhat flattened stems carrying linear-ligulate, dark green leaves held in two ranks along the stem that has fragrant flowers on an axillary, short, single flowered inflorescence that can flower at most any time of the year but occurs most often in the winter.

Available in US, Paramount and EU

Light: medium
Temps: cool-intermediate
(No detailed info in OW)

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29. Laelia lundii now known as Sophronitis lundii
IOSPE PHOTOS
3 1/2 - 7"

Light: 2500-3500 fc
Temp: high 80s day / mid-high 60s night, can grow well in cool-intermediate temps

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28. Laelia pumila
IOSPE PHOTOS
8"

Light: 2500-3500 fc, some growers say light should be as high as possible without burning leaves
Temp: high 70s - low 80s day / low 60s night

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8. Leptotes bicolor
IOSPE PHOTOS
2-4" tall

Light: 1800-2500 fc
Temp: mid-high 70s day / mid 60s night

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11. Leptotes unicolor
IOSPE PHOTOS
Mini

Light: 1800-2500 fc
Temp: low-mid 80s day / mid 60s night

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6. Masdevallia infracta
IOSPE PHOTOS
6" tall

Light: 800-1500 fc
Temp: high 70s day / mid-high 50s
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Masdevallia floribunda
IOSPE PHOTOS

3" tall densely leafed compact plant, crowded with single and double flowered spikes amongst the foliage, pale yellow triangular 1" blooms are spotted brown/purple, an abundance of beautiful flowers as its name implies, very floriferous summer bloomer.
Shade; 500-1500 Footcandles (indirect low light,slight shadowing)
Warm,Intermediate to Cool;45F min. to 98F max.(tolerant of extremes,favoring warm)
Available Andy's (USA), Paramount (Canada)
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Masdevallia tovarensis
IOSPE PHOTOS

compact plant with single 3" to 4" leaves, erect 5" basal spikes, which can bloom for two seasons, 3 to 4 white crystalline 1 1/2" flowers which bloom simultaneously, somewhat heat tolerant.
Keep moist & shaded, good water quality a must.
Shade; 500-1500 Footcandles (indirect low light,slight shadowing)
Intermediate; 55F min. to 85F max.
Available Andy's (USA), Paramount (Canada)

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30. Oncidium cheirophorum
IOSPE PHOTOS
Dwarf

Light: 2500-3500 fc
Temp: low 70s day / mid 60s night but can adapt 4-6 degrees cooler or warmer

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13. Ornithophora (Sigmatostalix) radicans
IOSPE PHOTOS
Mini

Light: 1500-2300 fc
Temp: mid-high 80s day / mid-high 60s night
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26. Paphiopedilum delenatii
IOSPE PHOTOS
Small

Light: 1500-2500 fc, some growers report growing them at 3500 fc in Catt light but the flowers are a deeper pink in lower light
Temp: high 70s / low 60s night
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Phalaenopsis parishii
IOSPE PHOTOS
http://zanaf.dyndns.biz/Phalaenopsis...shii_plant.htm

Light: 1200-1800 fc, likes dappled light rather than shade
Temps: high 70s - low 80s day / low 70s night
*can tolerate higher temps
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7. Phragmipedium pearcei
IOSPE PHOTOS
11"

Light: 2400-3000 fc
Temp: low 70s day / low-mid 50s night, less susceptible to disease at warmer temps

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Podangis dactyloceras
IOSPE PHOTOS
Orchid of the Week Library: Podangis dactyloceras

*This is the only Podangis in existence.

Light: 2000-3000 fc
Temps: low-mid 70s day / high 50s - low 60s night
Grows well at Intermediate ranges. Thrives with cool moist conditions.
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3. Scaphosepalum breve
IOSPE PHOTOS
small

No detailed info in Orchidwiz
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Vanda (Trudelia) cristata
IOSPE PHOTOS
Trudelia cristata

Light: 3500-4500 fc, needs some shading midday in summer
Temps: low-mid 80s day / high 60s night,
can tolerate temps 6-8 degrees cooler or warmer
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