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Old 01-13-2024, 10:04 PM
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Those of us in Southern California benefit from being smack dab in commercial orchid growing country. And most of us can take home plants at any time of the year without a multi-step plan to keep the orchid warm between the store and the car.

And I speak as someone who will be moving to a much colder state very, very soon, and will be driving with my dog and my plants, so I will need a multi-step plan. Lol
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Old 01-13-2024, 10:32 PM
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Dimples - Our prayers are with you, you dog, and your plants. How far north - if it's the northeast, maybe I can offer some helpful suggestions. I'm on Long Island in New York.
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Old 01-13-2024, 11:31 PM
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Those of us in Southern California benefit from being smack dab in commercial orchid growing country. And most of us can take home plants at any time of the year without a multi-step plan to keep the orchid warm between the store and the car.

And I speak as someone who will be moving to a much colder state very, very soon, and will be driving with my dog and my plants, so I will need a multi-step plan. Lol
I just moved with all my plants and I packed them as if I were to ship them, no breakage!

I used Poly-Fil for all my plants except for Drosera carnivorous plants (the ones that have dew drops on leaves), for these I used a small deli cup to cover the leaves.

As always, Ray has covered just about everything and this article is helpful: How to Pack Plants
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I appreciate the offer. We’re driving north to WA. I don’t want to derail the thread so I’ll make a separate post about it.
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found another article on the subject

PHALAENOPSIS MINERAL NUTRITION
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Yes:
  • Optimal flowering at 200 ppm nitrogen;
  • 300 ppm N leads to vegetative growth but not as much flowering;
  • Equal amounts of potassium and nitrogen are best when using nitrogen levels of 200 ppm and above, less potassium leading to leaf loss with spike inititation;
  • Phosphorus is required but not in large amounts, meaning high-phosphorus fertilizers are not useful;
  • Foliar feeding is insufficient;
  • Sphagnum moss is better at keeping roots evenly moist, which is preferred to drying out;
  • The low pH of sphagnum, 3.0-3.5, is not harmful.

That abstract is from the paper by Dr. Wang that Eric Goo mentioned when talking to me about growing Phals. You can read what he said here:
Eric Goo of Phoenix Orchids: Growing Phalaenopsis

The entire paper is only available to members of the International Society for Horticultural Science. I don't know whether it was a review of previous research, or was a report of experiments.

Calculating with the First Rays Fertilizer PPM Calculator, 1 gram of 20-20-20 fertilizer per liter of water yields 200 ppm N, 87 ppm P, 166 ppm K. Two-thirds of a teaspoon per gallon yields almost the same concentration, 209 ppm N, 91 ppm P, 174 ppm K.

Eric currently uses MSU blend (13-3-15) at 1 teaspoon per gallon. This yields 203 ppm N, 20 ppm P, 195 ppm K. These are almost the same values as at 1.6 grams/liter, 208 ppm N, 21 ppm P, 199 ppm K.

This refers to growing Phals in warm, humid commercial greenhouses. Commercial growers fertilize like that at almost every watering. Most hobbyists have less than perfect growing conditions, with lower temperatures and humidity than ideal, fluctuating rather than held constant. Their plants cannot grow as fast as those under ideal conditions, so less fertilizer will be needed.
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Old 01-20-2024, 03:39 PM
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Never seen any Tolumnias for sale at local Trader Joe's or Home Depot. Those have you who have found them at these stores are lucky.

I had one from Hausermann on a cedar plank and that did not fare well. Got a potted one from Lee & Co. and it seems to be doing OK.
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I’d be keen to try my hand at a project this year and actually have a couple of Tolumnia on my to-buy list.

AND they appear to possible to source over here too!
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I tried to grow 2 of them the past 6 months. I can't keep them alive. Can't keep up with the misting and watering. They went downhill this winter. Humidity indoors 37%. They don't like that for sure.
During the warm summer they did wel, but I think they also didn't like the temperature indoors (at night). And I'm not heating an entire house for only 2 Tolumnia's.

Needless to say I don't own a greenhouse. No Tolumnia's for me anymore.

It was a nice try :-)
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Old 02-02-2024, 05:18 AM
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I have taken the plunge and ordered a Tolumnia Jairak Flyer - Red Spread. Wish me luck and watch this space for many, many silly questions whilst I learn how to keep her alive (and hopefully bloom her!)

I expect she will be a teeny specimen when she arrives as well but… at least I managed to source some Tolumnia in the UK!

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