Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu


Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.


Many perks!
<...more...>


Orchid Board on Facebook
Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Members O.C.D. Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > WELCOME > Introductions - Break the Ice !
Like Tree1Likes

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Unread 01-20-2012, 07:32 PM
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Zone: 5b
Location: Indiana
Posts: 9
Female
Default

Yay!
Hopefully mine will do as well as my mom's is. (Mine is the miniature in the second photo, and my mom's is the one with the spike and keiki.) I'm a total newbie to the plant realm, but my mom's an old pro.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread 01-20-2012, 10:44 PM
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Zone: 3b
Posts: 315
Female
Default

Hi Hannah and welcome to the OB! I am new to orchids too, have learned alot already from the nice people here, but barely scratched the surface. I've looked at your Phals and know you'll get good advise from the experienced people here. I have a feeling your Phal won't be a "only child" for long.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread 01-21-2012, 10:01 AM
RosieC's Avatar
Orchidboard Addict
 

Default

Welcome to Orchid Board

Yes that's a keiki and I agree with Josh about 3" of roots before you remove them from the mother.

You can get great experience from trying to save discount ones, as long as you don't mind loosing some.

Rotted roots can be a problem with phals if there is not enough air flow around the roots. Usually I wouldn't use a sphag topping because it can reduce air flow. That can be good if it dries too quickly or if you are in a very very dry environment, but can be a problem if it reduces air flow and drying too much.

I find it's good to aim for them to be drying completely in 7 days, if it's too much more than that it tends to mean there is not enough airflow for the roots and they may rot. If it's less you have to water more often (but they actually seem to like that, which is why mounted ones can do well).
__________________
Rosie
My Orchid Photos

New to forums? - Tips to Get you Started ---- Tips for posting Photos
Need to find basic care info? - Care Sheets
Need further help using this forum? - Send me a PM
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread 01-21-2012, 11:02 AM
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Zone: 5b
Location: Indiana
Posts: 9
Female
Default

Carpe Diem-
Thanks! My phal hasn't been an "only child" for awhile, though- I have that miniature one, a big one, and a dendrobium, not to mention all of my bonsai. (And some of my weirder indoor plants like potatoes and pineapple.) I'm glad I found this forum, though- there's only so much information you can get off of those little plastic card thingies they stick in the soil.

RosieC- Boy, am I glad you said something!


I didn't realize it needed more airflow than that- when I got it it was in pure sphagnum moss, so I assumed that's what it preferred. I had filled most of the pot with fir bark when I repotted it the first time, but I'd put sphagnum moss around the roots to hold it in place. Looks like that was a bad idea. Oh well, crisis averted! Now it's in pure fir bark, with plenty of space for the air to get around.

Mounted? What does that mean?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread 01-21-2012, 11:05 AM
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Zone: 6b
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 987
Male
Default

You might want to research on KLN or Superthrive here. It'll help with the roots.
__________________
JOSH
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread 01-21-2012, 11:47 AM
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Zone: 5b
Location: Indiana
Posts: 9
Female
Default

You think so? I don't know, everything I've read says to be really careful about fertilizers, especially with damaged roots. If it's healthy enough to produce a keiki, I don't want to mess with it more than I already have. I do use a Schultz liquid fertilizer about once every 2 weeks at 1/4 strength, just to be sure I'm not starving the poor fellows, but I also don't want to burn them.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread 01-21-2012, 11:56 AM
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2011
Zone: 6b
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 987
Male
Default

A keiki could also be a plants last attempt to spread its genes. I'd wait and see what the veterans say about it.
__________________
JOSH
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread 01-22-2012, 09:22 AM
RosieC's Avatar
Orchidboard Addict
 

Default

KLN and Superthrive are not fertilisers but root stimulators.

Orchids need weak rooting hormones and powder ones don't really work with them. However KLN has has weak rooting hormones and other ingredients that help stimulate root growth in orchids. It's a liquid that you add a few drop into the watering water. I've not used superthrive but it's similar.

Orchids can be mounted on large pieces of bark or cork or even rock rather than potting them. Their roots grip to the bark and they are watered by spraying or by dunking the whole orchid and mount in water. In the wild Phalaenopsis grow clinging to trees as do many other types of orchids, others grow clinging to rocks. There are some that are better potted but the ones that grow on trees or rocks do well mounted. It's a great way to grow orchids, but is somewhat difficult indoors as you need somewhere they can drip after watering. I keep my mounted ones on the bathroom (tiled) windowledge in the winter and outside or in my greenhouse in the summer.

Anyway, the fact that these grow on trees explains why they like plenty of air around the roots. In the wild phalaenopsis grow in the rain forest and have water running down the tree trunks and over the roots, they get plenty of water but also have their roots in the air and get plenty of air. Phal roots also photosynthasis as do the roots of other orchids in the same group, which is another reason they do well mounted or in clear pots.

Another way to grow in a technique known as Semi Hydroponic. This uses Lecca, an inorganic medium and keeps them wetter than you would usually do. If you keep them too wet in bark it breaks down quickly and the holes between the pieces fills up... so no air flow. Also toxins can be released by the decomposing bark. Using Lecca which does not break down they can be kept wetter and without loosing air flow which once they adapt to it they can really like. There can be problems with orchids like Phals in this in cooler climates though as the evaporation can cause cooling in the Lecca and the roots which they don't like. I use a heat mat to combat that though.

Here are a couple of links to places on our forum for mounts and Semi Hydroponic.
Growing on Mounts
Semi-Hydroponic Culture
__________________
Rosie
My Orchid Photos

New to forums? - Tips to Get you Started ---- Tips for posting Photos
Need to find basic care info? - Care Sheets
Need further help using this forum? - Send me a PM

Last edited by RosieC; 01-22-2012 at 09:25 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread 01-22-2012, 03:10 PM
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Zone: 5b
Location: Indiana
Posts: 9
Female
Default

Thanks! This explains a lot! *gets busy reading*
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread 01-22-2012, 06:54 PM
Ysa Ysa is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Zone: 10a
Location: Miami Beach, Florida
Posts: 336
Female
Default

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Neglected orchids - advice and identification needed (tons of linked images) Diamond Maverick Beginner Discussion 23 03-30-2012 05:14 PM
Summer Project, 2011 (Intermediate) - Project Plant Suggestions TheBlazingAugust Member Projects 44 05-31-2011 05:01 AM
Spring 2011 Project - Plant Suggestions RosieC Member Projects 195 03-24-2011 03:09 PM
suggest an orchid Vulpes Velox Beginner Discussion 7 11-15-2009 09:53 PM
Let's Play "Name That Orchid"!! AaronM Identification Forum 37 05-28-2008 12:15 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:34 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com

Clubs, ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0