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Old 02-08-2018, 10:17 PM
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I've seen this one several times and finally bought it. No label, any specific name?

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Old 02-08-2018, 10:22 PM
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Without a label you can't tell. There are a lot of hybrids that look very much like each other. Mass producers of orchids sometimes clone and sell plants that have no clonal name, or only their internal identification number.

The harlequins are extremely variable, even the same plant at different times. The temperature at which the buds develop has a big effect on the color and spotting. So clones of the very same plant may have different flowers in different places and different times of year.

Perhaps if you ask the vendor they can tell you where they got it. You might be able to track it back through the supply chain. The original grower can probably give you a name.
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I agree with estacion seca.

Phal hybirds are too numerous, with too many similar looking ones to even pin down a name with any degree of certainty. Even within this group of novelty type harlequins (with the dark marks on the edges of the petals) I have seen at least 3 different names for phals that look like this.

And harlequins are even more complicated because the number, size and distribution of the spots is not the same for each plant of the same hybrid. The spots vary tremendously.

Phal. Yu Pin Lady 'Magic Art' (often called Phal Magic Art) is probably one of the most common, but I would absolutely not give this as your plant's definitive ID. The best you can do if you do want to name it (for recognizing plants that are out of bloom for instance) is keeping the mention NOID on the label, followed by the name of whatever hybrid it somewhat resembles.
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Possibly Phal Magic Art? That's what I hear elsewhere now. I'll put thst in quotes on the label with NO ID, thank you!
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Your Phal harlequin hybrid is named Phalaenopsis nonidentifiacus, and is among the more commonly seen hybrids out there. It's extremely variable - different colors, different shapes, different hues.

Seriously, as ES and Camille have stated, with an unlabeled Phal hybrid the only possibility of identifying it is if the original grower can answer your question. Literally every day hundreds of new Phal hybrids are bloomed by mass producers. Even the producers may or may not track their crosses. Yours certainly COULD be Phal Magic Art, though it could also be any of thousands of very similar hybrids which may or may not even have the same genetic background as Phal Magic Art. Call it a NoID and enjoy it for the beauty of the flower.
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Your Phal harlequin hybrid is named Phalaenopsis nonidentifiacus, and is among the more commonly seen hybrids out there. It's extremely variable - different colors, different shapes, different hues.

Seriously, as ES and Camille have stated, with an unlabeled Phal hybrid the only possibility of identifying it is if the original grower can answer your question. Literally every day hundreds of new Phal hybrids are bloomed by mass producers. Even the producers may or may not track their crosses. Yours certainly COULD be Phal Magic Art, though it could also be any of thousands of very similar hybrids which may or may not even have the same genetic background as Phal Magic Art. Call it a NoID and enjoy it for the beauty of the flower.
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Love your phal! I have a very similar NOID. I've been able to find probable matches for a number of mine on Taiwan orchid, Taiwan Phalaenopis - Shulong Flowers . I know all my unlabeled phals will always be NOIDs, but I still enjoy coming up with probable matches. I've found some of the numbers on the Shulong site paired with an actual name on phals I've purchased with tags.
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If the number matches your tag and the flowers are the same, you hit a bingo.
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