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Old 04-08-2015, 04:10 AM
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Hello All,

I need a little help in finding the identification of this vandaceous species I acquired a while back. The closest genus placement I have come up with is Cleisostoma, but there are several other genera that it may easily fit into.

The mother plant that the division was taken from was 5 feet in length with leaves reaching 10+ inches. The foliage is dark maroon in color and the growth habit is sharply pendulous. The flowers are roughly 3/8 inch across individually and the mature clusters hold 50+ on a pendulous, branching inflorescence.

The photos are of my division on its blooming cycle, I tried to take the closest photos of the bloom I could but my camera's macro is limited.

Any help in identification would be appreciated.
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Unhappycat:
Boy, I tried.....I have scanned a lot of my reference material for the last hour or so, thinking I had seen it, but to no avail. I think you are on the right track, but I wasn't able to pin the name on it for you - If I do find the photo I was thinking of, I will let you know.
Sorry I didn't have better new, but as I say - I tried!!
Whatever it is, it is happy! Very nice looking plant.
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Do you have a close up pic (at least closer) of the blooms? Try shooting through a magnifying glass or even a magnifying mirror.

One possibility is the Cleisostoma nangongense based on bloom colors but can't make out the details on your pics. IOSPE seems iffy on the description on this one.

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Another might be a Cleisostoma rolfeanum.
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Boy, I tried.....I have scanned a lot of my reference material for the last hour or so, thinking I had seen it, but to no avail. I think you are on the right track, but I wasn't able to pin the name on it for you - If I do find the photo I was thinking of, I will let you know.
Sorry I didn't have better new, but as I say - I tried!!
Whatever it is, it is happy! Very nice looking plant.
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Do you have a close up pic (at least closer) of the blooms? Try shooting through a magnifying glass or even a magnifying mirror.

One possibility is the Cleisostoma nangongense based on bloom colors but can't make out the details on your pics. IOSPE seems iffy on the description on this one.

---------- Post added at 10:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 PM ----------

Another might be a Cleisostoma rolfeanum.
Thank you both for your efforts. I will keep searching through my references and try to locate some additional references on the cleisostoma genus when able.

AnonYMouse: at the time of the blooming I did not have a way to magnify the blooms past what is there. I do see evidence of another spike emerging on the plant and I will check with the original source to see if the mother plant is in bloom again, hopefully I can take a few blooms under a stereoscope and get a better magnification of the lip and column.
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Luisia teretifolia
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Luisia teretifolia
Nope. This is Luisia teretifolia




The blooms emerge along the growths rather than sending out a long spike. And, the "leaves" and growth habit are different. This plant is more succulent in appearance.

I would say you are on the right path w/the Cleisostoma. Any chance the person you got it from can help w/the ID?
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I would say you are on the right path w/the Cleisostoma. Any chance the person you got it from can help w/the ID?
At this time the original owner only knows that the plant was left from a boarding customer many years ago. I will be inspecting the original mother plant on my next trip to the collection, really hoping for it to be in bloom again.
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I think you may have Cleisostoma williamsonii. There are colour variations of which I suspect yours is one....then again I may be horribly wrong!!

Good luck.
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