Too Early to Hazard a Guess About This Paph?

[JMNYC]

OMG! Look what I just came upon on ebay! How closely does this resemble mine??? Much better color depiction the the pink/mauve than what I could manage.

Paphiopedilum Pinocchio x Lowii in Spike Orchid Plant | eBay

Just held mine up to the screen and made two bad pics with the other hand! LOOK AT THIS!!!! Not simply close, in person, IDENTICAL.

[NYCorchidman]

Beautiful!

It does look the same, but you still cannot say what it is for sure because other hybrids involving lowii and a paph in the sequential flowering group will produce about the same looking flowers.

I think the closest you can go is lowii (which is obvious) and a member from cochlopetalum.

Even the one you found on eaby is a representative picture of that hybrid. While primary hybrids are much more uniform than more complex hybrids, they do show variations, especially in the shape, making it awfully difficult to tell.
The same goes with hybrids made with multifloral and sequential. It is just nearly impossible to tell because hybrids of this type is just so so similar in phenotype.

[JMNYC]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

Beautiful!

It does look the same, but you still cannot say what it is for sure because other hybrids involving lowii and a paph in the sequential flowering group will produce about the same looking flowers.

I think the closest you can go is lowii (which is obvious) and a member from cochlopetalum.

Even the one you found on eaby is a representative picture of that hybrid. While primary hybrids are much more uniform than more complex hybrids, they do show variations, especially in the shape, making it awfully difficult to tell.
The same goes with hybrids made with multifloral and sequential. It is just nearly impossible to tell because hybrids of this type is just so so similar in phenotype.

Many thanks!

You want the other POT OF IT? Cause right now, both pots could easily be divided again! This thing is taking over my whole apartment. It's like a special effect.

[NYCorchidman]

You have two pots of the same thing? Good for you cause it is pretty.

Well, thanks, but I have no space left. lol
I just started nurturing many babies. hahahaha

[JMNYC]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

You have two pots of the same thing? Good for you cause it is pretty.

Well, thanks, but I have no space left. lol
I just started nurturing many babies. hahahaha

Two identical now, 3 1/2" Paph pots (I luv these pots); I divided last year; #80 and #81. But on one, #80, a bazillion fans only producing new leaves, not a bud in sight. I fear this is the plant, no, the plantS which will eat Manhattan.

I just made a pic after putting them close together, #80 is on the left. They are gettin a little scary, actually.
(CD is from one of my wind chimes, I replace the catchers with CDs. The orchids like wind chimes. Pretty sure.)

[NYCorchidman]

That can be a good thing.
Both groups involved in this hybrid readily clump and send up many spike all at the same time when mature and conditions are right.

You might have a big flower show in the future.

[JMNYC]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

That can be a good thing.
Both groups involved in this hybrid readily clump and send up many spike all at the same time when mature and conditions are right.

You might have a big flower show in the future.

I am heartened by your optimism! I obsessively look into each crown of each fan in the other pot....close up, I see like a laser, and can right off tell if what is peeking out is yet another leaf or......what I hope for, buds!

This poor thing, long ago, when I found it, tiny, sad thing it was.....brought it back to health, took 4 years to produce its first bloom.

So, I think both pots are mature. If they get any more mature I will just put them in a salad with some Pesto.

[quiltergal]

The debate rages on in the world of taxonomy. Currently Paph. chamberlainianum is considered a synonym for victoria regina, with the latter the officially recognized name. That said, Paph. chamberlainianum has a much darker rose pink pouch. There might be a picture in my album, if not I started a thread in the Paph forum, and there are pictures there. The color of the pouch on yours more closely resembles moquettianum or primulinum var purpurascens.

Whatever it is I really like it.

[JMNYC]

Originally Posted by quiltergal

The debate rages on in the world of taxonomy. Currently Paph. chamberlainianum is considered a synonym for victoria regina, with the latter the officially recognized name. That said, Paph. chamberlainianum has a much darker rose pink pouch. There might be a picture in my album, if not I started a thread in the Paph forum, and there are pictures there. The color of the pouch on yours more closely resembles moquettianum or primulinum var purpurascens.

Whatever it is I really like it.

Well….all this raises what for me is a fascinating underlying issue in all of life: visceral, intuitive acuity versus formal academic data.

Having been raised by an academic mom….I am normally moved to chase those latter data, and certainly have no axes to grind re the gift of my formal education.
BUT, my take increasingly, is, be it the chops to be a keen differential diagnostician in medicine or growing plants well or interacting with any other living being, the former always trumps the latter in importance.

Remember, Einstein explained, he first INTUITED The Universe; the math, the physics…the formal, formulaic parts came LATER.

Many physicians excel academically, but cannot make a keen differential diagnosis, forget holistically, or be any kind of actual healer to save themselves. They are often estranged from the levels of richness, of communion, as per my new signature here via Proust--- which afford getting “it” fully and accurately in the ways that matter most.

Man’s need to categorize, label other living beings is what it is, but to me, that is always secondary to what may sometimes appear formally unfathomable but NEVER inaccessible. I have written about this phenomenon often.

Now, please know, for all the pics I have taken of this first (of two as always) flower….dozens, capturing the true color of the pouch and the petal ends continues to elude. Fact is, in person, it is a pale, kinda muddy mauve and, to everyone at my end, ALAS... not that lovely. Never has been.

But I grow everything in here, both the orchids I buy and ALL the creatures which come my way, the same: with acuity and devotion and always a sense of privilege exactly as if they were human guests.

U want the other pot? OMG.

[quiltergal]

Originally Posted by JMNYC

U want the other pot? OMG.

Thanks, but no. I can barely take care of what I have.