NOID - can't even guess at species - Orchid Board

Aussie42 · #1 08-04-2010, 06:14 AM

Hi folks.

Had an interesting flower come out recently. The smell was...special. Somewhat similar to rotten meat. I've done some looking around and haven't been able to come up with any ideas at all on this one.

Quite a small plant for the flower size, single leafed, short thick canes.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Aus.

UKCat · #2 08-04-2010, 07:57 AM

Looks like it is from the Bulbophyllum family to me and they have some very 'interesting' smells

I have heard it discribed as rotten meat and cat urine

I think it could be a biflorum

PaphMadMan · #3 08-04-2010, 08:36 AM

Definitely genus Bulbophyllum. There are quite a few species and hybrids of this general type.

Aussie42 · #4 08-04-2010, 08:56 AM

Thanks very much UK cat and Paphman.

A bit of Google with the right species name and I'm wondering how close does Bulbophyllum rothschildianum come?

(And thanks for not mentioning the weeds in the background. I bought a collection of a couple of hundred orchids a while ago and am still getting around to re-potting. It's taking quite a while.)

Cheers,
Aus.

UKCat · #5 08-04-2010, 09:08 AM

Could be, I didn't see the frilly bits before, have a look at the link I sent you in the pm and see if it is that one as it is an excellent photo of the plant

boytjie · #6 08-04-2010, 09:17 AM

Doesn't look like pure rothschildianum; the flowers don't seem dark enough. If it's a hybrid, though, it definitely has some rothschildianum in the mix. Great bloom! Good job with it.

Aussie42 · #7 08-04-2010, 11:47 PM

Thanks all.

Yes, UKCat - that looks exactly like it. And it is also the same form as the other pics of rothschildianum I've seen.

As Stephen says, the issue may be colour. It's not the best photo, taken in low light without a flash. I really have to work on my photography.

Cheers,
Aus.

Orchidflowerchild · #8 08-08-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie42

Thanks all.

Yes, UKCat - that looks exactly like it. And it is also the same form as the other pics of rothschildianum I've seen.

As Stephen says, the issue may be colour. It's not the best photo, taken in low light without a flash. I really have to work on my photography.

Cheers,
Aus.

There are a few other things that make me say not roth, however, Cirr. Elizabeth Ann has a couple of widely available cultivars out there... Is there particular reason to believe it is a species?

-Cj

Aussie42 · #9 08-08-2010, 08:41 PM

Hi Cj.

No, no particular reason. The folks I bought this off have quite a few species that I've identified but also have a mixed bag of crosses. When I said "species" in the heading I should have said genus. I think. The "family" would be orchidaceae so yes, probably genus. I'm a bit new to the heirarcy system for plants.

And I see what you mean about Cirr Elizabeth Ann. That would be half roth, which would explain the similarity. And the Cirr longissimum seed parent in it would presumably lighten the roth influence.

Cheers,
Aus.

Orchidflowerchild · #10 08-08-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie42

Hi Cj.

No, no particular reason. The folks I bought this off have quite a few species that I've identified but also have a mixed bag of crosses. When I said "species" in the heading I should have said genus. I think. The "family" would be orchidaceae so yes, probably genus. I'm a bit new to the heirarcy system for plants.

And I see what you mean about Cirr Elizabeth Ann. That would be half roth, which would explain the similarity. And the Cirr longissimum seed parent in it would presumably lighten the roth influence.

Cheers,
Aus.

ALso C. roth doesn't typically have longitudinal lines of pigment, so much as a kindof papillose red surface of the synsepal...the striping is from something else, potentially longissium.

Regards,
-Cj