Hybrid NOID - Orchid Board

Greenorchid · #1 (**permalink**) 03-03-2007, 05:01 PM

Hi everyone,
i have this orchid, but i don't know its name... i don't even know if it's an intergeneric hybrid, or an Odontoglossum hybrid.... Anyone can help me?

PS The flower is about 10cm , and the spike is 60 cm tall...

cb977 · #2 (**permalink**) 03-03-2007, 06:48 PM

Hi Claudia

I've seen this plant before and I'm drawing a blank with the name!

Hopefully, one of our other members have their brain cells working today and you'll get an answer

Sorry I couldn't help, but it is beautiful!

Greenorchid · #3 (**permalink**) 03-04-2007, 10:41 AM

Thanks Barbara, don't worry about the name you could not remember, it's just curiosity...

Gongora · #4 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 12:10 AM

Hi Claudia,
What you have is a Degarmoara Winter Wonderland, a complex oncidinae hybrid.
Cheers Craig

cb977 · #5 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 12:13 AM

That's it!!!

I've been thinking about this for two days!
Thanks Gongora

Greenorchid · #6 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 10:45 AM

Incredible!!!
You're really fantastic, Gongora!! Thanks, Thank you very much!!!

cb977 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenorchid

Incredible!!!
You're really fantastic, Gongora!! Thanks, Thank you very much!!!

Oscarman · #8 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 03:33 PM

Often members ask about a name for a NOID orchid. After viewing the plant, many of us suggest a name that we believe to be true and correct for that plant based on it's characteristics.

Certainly, this can help us understand the possible cultural requirements of the plant and help us to grow it better.

After working plant registration at our society show a couple of weeks ago, it became obvious to me that there are a number of incorrectly identified orchids out there. As growers of these plants, we all have the responsibility to ensure accuracy in the identification of each and every plant we grow.

If it's ID has been lost, it should forever remain a NOID and needs to be considered an orphan with no future in breeding or judging.

This is not a bad thing, for it certainly can be enjoyed in all it's floral delight.

Greenorchid · #9 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oscarman

This is not a bad thing, for it certainly can be enjoyed in all it's splendor and for it's floral delight.

I absolutely agree with you.

Sometimes we hope to "find" the name of our noid orchid, just for fun. This happens in case of hybrid, than usually we do not carry to the expo in order to make judge them (even if it would be beautiful

). Therefore it remains pure curiosity ... When you speak about lost ID, you refer to the label that usually accompanies orchids? Often also those are wrong, and the visual acknowledgment becomes essential, obviously this is easy (or easier) for the species, while for the hybrids, considering the enormous number of crossings, it's almost impossible. So, often is pleasant for us of having the name of the plant that more is similar to ours

Gongora · #10 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oscarman

Often members ask about a name for a NOID orchid. After viewing the plant, many of us suggest a name that we believe to be true and correct for that plant based on it's characteristics.

Certainly, this can help us understand the possible cultural requirements of the plant and help us to grow it better.

After working plant registration at our society show a couple of weeks ago, it became obvious to me that there are a number of incorrectly identified orchids out there. As growers of these plants, we all have the responsibility to ensure accuracy in the identification of each and every plant we grow.

If it's ID has been lost, it should forever remain a NOID and needs to be considered an orphan with no future in breeding or judging.

This is not a bad thing, for it certainly can be enjoyed in all it's floral delight.

What Oscarman says is 95% correct. And unless I am 100% confidant in my ID with individual hybrids then I will not confuse the issue by giving some wild stab in the dark. So why am I confidant here, these orchid have been cloned to the point of saturation, down here in Oz every man and his dog has one of these in the same style as Oncidium Sharry Baby. I have been judging orchids at benching's for close on 20 years "I know my orchids"

If it's ID has been lost, it should forever remain a NOID and needs to be considered an orphan with no future in breeding or judging.

This I can not agree with. Every plant should have the chance to be identified if it can be, obviously there are a lot of instances were it is impossible but the opportunity should be given
Cheers Craig