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You need to look at the two phals on the pine ridge site as they are not peloric in the fact that petals emulate the lip, there is no petal that resembles a lip (they look like a lily or an amaryllis).
I looked at Phal. Arctic Threshold 'Pine Ridge White Thunder' JC/AOS (3/4/1999) that was commended for 'pleasingly shaped, relatively flat peloric flowers in which the lip very closely resembles the petals.' No lip measurements.
The site also has a nice assortment of phal/dtps with brush-mark color patterns.
Thanks for referring us there.
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