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Old 03-07-2012, 10:51 AM
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Question P. violacea var. Indigo x P. equestris alba - what to expect?

It's apparently a new primary hybrid and thus there are no pictures available of the mature plant or its blooms. Unfortunately it does not say which plant is the seed parent and which is the pollen one (please correct me if I use the wrong terms here), but what kind of flowers could one expect from this mix? I'm thinking in regards of colour, shape, size etc.

What do you think?
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:17 PM
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It's apparently a new primary hybrid and thus there are no pictures available of the mature plant or its blooms. Unfortunately it does not say which plant is the seed parent and which is the pollen one (please correct me if I use the wrong terms here), but what kind of flowers could one expect from this mix? I'm thinking in regards of colour, shape, size etc.

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First off....I think your'e going to LOVE it!
As for the flowers, imo you may get a dilute lavender [of any shade No help at all, I know, but the violacea parent sounds dark [in color] Good luck, and can't wait to see it
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:27 PM
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the name of that primary is Phalaenopsis Equalacea. google that and youll see what to excpect. im guessing the color will be like the vio var indigo, but not at saturated, because of the other parent.
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I wonder if it will be sequential blooming multi-floral like equestris or single flowers like violacea?
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I wonder if it will be sequential blooming multi-floral like equestris or single flowers like violacea?
It will be a sequential bloomer. When they get older they have multiple spikes with multiple flowers.

I have a one made with indigo violacea (pollen) and equestris coerula (pod) and it looks like an indigo violacea. Smells like one, too. Fishmommy, I had it in the MOS display at the MOS show so you might have seen it - first blooming and first flower for me, then. Several flowers since and a new spike has appeared. It's from Sapphire Dragon Orchids.


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Just a word of warning, I saw on the schwerter site that these are new Taiwan imports that they've only been establishing for 3 months, and so are recommended for advanced growers. I have bought new imports from Schwerter ebfore, and sometimes it's a bit delicate to get them going. But spring is on your side!

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It will be a sequential bloomer. When they get older they have multiple spikes with multiple flowers.

I have a one made with indigo violacea (pollen) and equestris coerula (pod) and it looks like an indigo violacea. Smells like one, too. Fishmommy, I had it in the MOS display at the MOS show so you might have seen it - first blooming and first flower for me, then. Several flowers since and a new spike has appeared. It's from Sapphire Dragon Orchids.

Very nice color!!!
But hers may not necessarily be sequential. If you look at different pics of Phal Equalacea on internet, some inherit the the flowering behavior of equestris.
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Thanks Bob! That really helped.

Oh, I think I like it... Now the question is, should I add this to my way too large an order at Schwerter or shouldn't I. I'm already waiting for seven Phals from them when I spotted this potential interesting hybrid.

Hmm...Decisions, decisions
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Hmm. . . It depends on whether the violacea is a true Norton indigo, or one of the regular coerulea varieties that are a pretty pale blue. If it is a Norton, I agree that it would be in various shades of lavendar to light purple, and that also depends on which is pod and which is pollen. If it is a standard coerulea, then I would be expecting some very light lavendars to near white flowers. I definitely think you should get one!
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Hmm. . . It depends on whether the violacea is a true Norton indigo, or one of the regular coerulea varieties that are a pretty pale blue. If it is a Norton, I agree that it would be in various shades of lavendar to light purple, and that also depends on which is pod and which is pollen. If it is a standard coerulea, then I would be expecting some very light lavendars to near white flowers. I definitely think you should get one!
The problem is, I have no idea... All I have to go by are the pictures on the vendors page and the probability of those photos showing the actual parents is not that high. Here's a link: Phal. violacea var. Indigo x Phal. equestris var. alba - Orchideen der Schwerter Orchideenzucht

Oh, found another interesting primary hybrid but this time between Phal. violacea coerulea and Phal. equestris blue (coerulea)! Does this hybrid have a name?
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The problem is, I have no idea... All I have to go by are the pictures on the vendors page and the probability of those photos showing the actual parents is not that high. Here's a link: Phal. violacea var. Indigo x Phal. equestris var. alba - Orchideen der Schwerter Orchideenzucht

Oh, found another interesting primary hybrid but this time between Phal. violacea coerulea and Phal. equestris blue (coerulea)! Does this hybrid have a name?
There is a good chance (a very good one) that those two are the parents, and that is definitely a Norton violacea. So lighter lavender tones can be expected.
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