eulophia guineensis

[craigo12]

thinking of getting this one
iheared eulophia graminea is a weed over in america
is eulophia guineesis as weedy as this one
and is it s easy to grow from seed.
thanks
craigo12

[Zoi2]

Sorry I can't help with the eulophia graminea, but am giving you a bump.
Joann

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Unless you have experience in sowing orchid seeds in-vitro, I would highly recommend buying an adult BS plant.

[edub9]

Want to trade, I have eulophia graminea. Hit me up at ericwalton9edub9@gmail.com

Originally Posted by craigo12

thinking of getting this one
iheared eulophia graminea is a weed over in america
is eulophia guineesis as weedy as this one
and is it s easy to grow from seed.
thanks
craigo12

[Cym Ladye]

The genus Eulophia, which also constitutes the monogeneric alliance Eulophia, includes 210 species of orchids. It was first described by John Lindley in 1821. The name "Eulophia" was derived from the Greek words "eu" (well) and "lophos" (plume), referring to the crested ridges of the labellum (lip) in most species. This genus is abbreviated Eupha in horticultural trade.

Another plant not in the Cymbidium Alliance. Perhaps that is why edub9 has not gotten more responses.

CL

[samarak]

E. graminea and a couple of others (alta) are said to be weeds in Florida. I grow several Eulophias and related Cymbidieae/Eulophinae but don't have either of those nor guineensis. But most are pretty easy and tolerant growers for me.

[lambelkip]

Originally Posted by Cym Ladye

Another plant not in the Cymbidium Alliance. Perhaps that is why edub9 has not gotten more responses.

Eulophia is usually considered part of the cymbidium alliance, although hybrids between Eulophia and Cymbidium are rare.

Eulophia guineensis might be weedy in tropical areas, but would probably not be a problem in areas with regular frost in winter.

[Cym Ladye]

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Monocots
Order: Asparagales
Family: Orchidaceae
Subfamily: Epidendroideae
Tribe: Cymbidieae
Subtribe: Cyrtopodiinae
Alliance: Eulophia
Genus: Eulophia

There will always be "lumpers and splitters". I tend to go with what the Scientific classification currently is,
and whatever it may be "thought to be", it is not in the Cymbidium Alliance, which is the name of this section of the OB.

The purpose of the sectioning off the Scientific classification into smaller units is to put more like plants with each other. Therefore the use of subtribes and further classification to Alliance and finally the genus.

Lumping all genera in the Cymbidieae tribe, even though many do not grow under the same conditions, do not breed easily or at all together with the genus Cymbidium, and have certain distinctively different characteristics is "lumping". You lump and I will split and we can agree to disagree.

Cym Ladye

[samarak]

Cym Ladye, may I ask what source you quoted there? I know different people go different ways, and all are entitled to their opinion, but I've never seen a classification that put Eulophia in the Cyrtopodiinae subtribe (usually Eulophiinae). I'm curious as to whether there is some new information somewhere. Thanks.

[lambelkip]

you're right, there will never be an agreement on whether to lump or split. My point was, if you read the description of this particular forum

Including Ansellia, Cymbidium, Cyrotopdium, Eulophia Grammangis, Grammatophyllum and their Hybrids.

It's already been decided that this is the appropriate place for this type of post.

The small number of responses is likely because Eulophias and their hybrids are fairly rare in cultivation, and most people just don't have information about them.

Samarak, Eulophia was assigned to Cyrtipodiinae by Schlechter in the 1920s, and has been switched back and forth between Cyrtipodiinae and Eulophiinae several times since then.
genetic analysis may eliminate both subtribes - Cyrtopodium, Galeandra and Grobya have been suggested for inclusion in Catasetinae, and the other species have been suggested for inclusion in Cymbidiinae.