Mis-labelled Catt. in bloom

[No-Pro-mwa]

I don't have an idea either but what a color. Very, very different, it's lovely.

[aznparkranger]

It looks somewhat similar to what I have, however mine has Chocolate Drop as one of the parents. It also does have a fragrance and subtle spots. I have a Laeliocattleya Sagarik Wax 'Silk Ball'. Perhaps they may be related?




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[brsucculents]

Let me preface this comment by saying I don't know anything about spotted Cats. I have heard that the spots in aclandiae offspring are for one generation. I just wonder if it's possible that it's the cross labeled but the spots have evaporated? My guess that the heritage is guttata (parent of Chocolate Drop which may be responisible for the similar appearance) and not aclandiae.

[silken]

Originally Posted by aznparkranger

It looks somewhat similar to what I have, however mine has Chocolate Drop as one of the parents. It also does have a fragrance and subtle spots. I have a Laeliocattleya Sagarik Wax 'Silk Ball'. Perhaps they may be related?




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Similar, thanks.

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Originally Posted by brsucculents

Let me preface this comment by saying I don't know anything about spotted Cats. I have heard that the spots in aclandiae offspring are for one generation. I just wonder if it's possible that it's the cross labeled but the spots have evaporated? My guess that the heritage is guttata (parent of Chocolate Drop which may be responisible for the similar appearance) and not aclandiae.

That thought crossed my mind too. But I don't see any similarity in lip, petal shape or anything of either Mark Jones or Lucky Charms. I am hoping Warren at Cloud's will respond to my e-mail. Otherwise, I guess it might remain a mystery. Sure seems like chocolate drop influence, but not it. But I went thru Orchid Wiz and looked at all the progeny from it that had pictures and no match.

[silken]

Well, the mystery has been solved!!

Claudio from Clouds sent me a wonderful informative e-mail and spent time trying to look up images of this cross on the web. I don't know how he found one because I searched hi and lo and came up empty. He did tho and the bloom looks almost identical to mine.

So, the tag is correct and despite spotted parents that even Fred Clarke of SVO who made the flask thought would produce spotted offspring, mine came out like this. There is 12.5% C. bicolour in the cross which seems to have a major influence in these blooms. Shape and colour. Claudio is sure some offspring will be spotted and Fred has used both parents before for spotted Catts. Claudio told me that if one parent is spotted, no spots on the resulting seedlings. if two parents are spotted, good chance of spots. Obviously not always.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and help to find a name, when I had a name all along

I love the blooms anyways, and have a couple un-bloomed spotted ones. So hopefully I will have some spots in the future.

[tucker85]

I think it's a nice orchid. The photographs are excellent. If it's a clone, it's possible someone could identify it but if it's a seed grown cross it may be the only one in the world like that. You'll probably never know for sure, unfortunately.

[silken]

Originally Posted by tucker85

I think it's a nice orchid. The photographs are excellent. If it's a clone, it's possible someone could identify it but if it's a seed grown cross it may be the only one in the world like that. You'll probably never know for sure, unfortunately.

Thanks tucker85.

I do think it is what the label says. After hearing from Clouds, who are a very reputable orchid vendor in Canada, I believe it is. They bought the flask of seedlings from Fred Clarke of SVO. Clouds did find me one other picture at Lucky Girl Orchids (just saw someone else mention them on OB as they sell on E-Bay). She has a photo of her bloom from this cross that is pretty much identical to mine. It just seemed impossible with two very spotted parents to get what I have. But it has C. bicolor in it which seems to be rather prominent in my plant. I think that is where the bloom shape and colour is coming from. There could be other siblings that are spotted but with seedlings there can be a lot of variance. Since I've seen another photo (finally) of another persons blooms and talked to Clouds I am convinced.

[No-Pro-mwa]

Glad the mystery is solved. I think that is what is so much fun with seedlings, how they are going to come out. And is the next one going to be different.

[tucker85]

Well I'm glad you got that straightened out. It's fun to own seed grown crosses because it means that no one else in the world has that exact same orchid. I'm fortunate to live near some cattleya breeders (Krull-Smith and Odom's Orchids) so I've seen first hand the amazing variety of shapes and colors that can come from one seed pod. Sometimes a look from way back in the ancestry of the plant will show up. That makes the hobby even more interesting.

[silken]

It's fun till you get a real dud!

I do not call this one a dud by any means!