"Catt. intermedia" no flowers, but flower "L.tenebrosa" Under the same conditions. - Orchid Board

salamandra · #1 07-06-2012, 06:16 AM

Hello, I have a problem with my "Catt. intermedia" does not flourish, new shoots do not flower, is growing a lot, now is getting 2 new stems and old do not flower.

This on the same terms as a "Laelia tenebrosa" that is growing the floral bag and a "Bc.Binosa 'Wabash Valley'" which is already flower buds.

I do not understand that no flowers be a Catt. photoperiodic not.

Right now the photoperiod is 15 hours of light in the dark 9.

Not that I am wrong.

Any ideas?

Thanks for your time.

WhiteRabbit · #2 07-06-2012, 09:45 PM

Wish I could help - I am curious what others may say - I have an intermedia with no blooms so far, and am wondering how much light they want.
Hope someone can help!

Wynn Dee13 · #3 07-07-2012, 01:16 AM

Just because another Cattleya or related species blooms for you doesn't mean all species will bloom under the same conditions or at the same time. I have a lot of Catts. Species and hybrids and some bloom a lot and some have never bloomed. It comes down to giving that particular plant what it needs to bloom. If it doesn't bloom for you then the plant is missing something. The hard part is figuring out what that is!

I have found that C. intermedia likes a lot of water and if I grow them too dry the growths develope small and the leaves will be wavy. I just read that they grow along the coast so they like more water than other Catt species. Here is where I read this. Orchids of Brazil. Brazilian orchids

Sometimes certain plants don't grow well. I have three L. sincorana plants and they are potted the exact same way and grow side by side but I have only had two bloom. I also have a few L. praestans and they are grown the same way and are grown side by side too and one bloomed last year but didn't this year. Another one bloomed this year and not last year. I don't know why they sometimes refuse to bloom but I think it is due to genetics and the culture we give them.

Catts like a lot of light so I give them as much as I can without burning them. Good luck and I hope you get blooms soon!

salamandra · #4 07-07-2012, 04:54 AM

Hello!

Thanks for answering

Thanks for the tips.

Switch to Catt. of place, with more direct light, I hope it's good.
She lives in a greenhouse where humidity never drops of 60-70% minimum. The humidity is not a problem.

I hope to find the living conditions and their genetic need not be very complicated.
I would like to see it in bloom!

Thank you very much everyone for all.

james mickelso · #5 07-07-2012, 11:26 PM

My C. Intermedia flower reliably with the same conditions as my other catts. I have found that some need a "kick in the pants" so to speak. More phosphorus and potassium with less nitrogen when they are halfway through their growth cycle. When they are starting to grow their second leaf or you see a sheath starting to grow, I switch to a low nitrogen fertilizer. My C. intermedia alba "Hoyt" really produces this way. I'm still looking for the article that I read that explains this better than I can. It was in AOS magazine around the late 80's or early 90's. I know that my corrulea needs more water. I have mine in a course media and can water frequently but my alba "Hoyt" doesn't like that much water. I've recently installed a larger fan in my GH and can now water with a hose as late as the afternoon with no problems.

Wynn Dee13 · #6 07-07-2012, 11:50 PM

That's beautiful James but I don't think that is a pure intermedia. You might already know that though. It looks like it could have something like skinneri in it since it has a tubular lip. See how this intermedia doesn't have a tubular lip? Cattleya Intermedia « Miguel's Orchids

isurus79 · #7 07-08-2012, 12:33 AM

I agree with Wynn on this one. That is definitely not intermedia.

Normally, a plant that is not blooming is not doing so because it is too young or it is not receiving enough light. Salamandra, can you post a picture or two so we can see how old the plant is and if it is getting enough light?

salamandra · #8 07-08-2012, 04:22 PM

This is the plant.
Is in good health?

I hope it helps.

Thanks for everything!

salamandra · #9 07-18-2012, 07:06 AM

I return to the problem.

Anyone have any idea?

Greetings!

isurus79 · #10 07-18-2012, 12:46 PM

There is a lot of red in the light, so looking at the color of the leaves is a bit tough, but I would say they look good. The plant also appears to be old enough to bloom, but the p-bulbs are pretty skinny. Since these plants are mounted, its really tough to over water them. I would water them every day when in active growth. That will help the plant get the needed resources for good flowering.