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Old 11-27-2011, 10:34 PM
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Catt walker,
Should Cattleya walkerianas be kept under bright conditions when they are budding?
I have a Walker cho-jou in bud now and have several other clones that should not be far behind. Temps 26c during the day, and 18c at night. They are grown 5 inches below 8 t5 lights.

Just got a mericlone of tokutsu can't wait to see how the flower turns out.

Most of my Paphs have better flower coloration under shade during bud development.... How about walkerianas?

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Old 11-28-2011, 02:06 AM
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Andre. You have a couple of questions here.

The temps you describe are fine, but I assume that they are ambient temps. You might want to check the temps at plant & flower levels, since your lights are so close to the plants (& therefore the flowers).

I was thinking of starting a thread for C walkeriana growers to provide feedback on when their plants initiated growth this year & where they lived. Maybe next season.

I believe that day length (or rather the shortening of the day/lenghtening of the night) is the key stimulant for initiating C walkeriana flower spikes. I believe that the gradual change from a 14 hour summer day to about a 10- 11 hour autumn day is what triggers the spike initiation.

I know that temperature plays a key role in flower development & flower quality, but I think that a shortened day is the prime determinant for initiation.

Your C walkeriana 'Choujou' is a coerulea form & I'm not surprised that it is blooming ahead of the other color varieties. For some reason, the coeruleas seem to produce more growths & seem to be more "flexible" in blooming requirements. So they seem to be quicker to initiate.

However, since you are in a northern area & should have been experiencing shorter days more than 2 months ago, I would also guess that you have been running long hours with your lights. This would explain why your coerulea is only now blooming & your other color forms have not yet initiated.

Your 'Tokutsu' is another issue. This plant will bloom fine under your conditions. However, the unique coloration, for which it is famous (almost semi-alba, with rich red ribs on sepals & petals), will only occur under fairly cool blooming conditions. Maybe 20 C days & about 10 C (or lower) nights. With higher temps & high light, the flowers will be a light pink blush with whitish ribs on the petals & sepals.

Even the owner of the original (in Japan) experiences this phenomenon with both his original & his mericlones. I have a batch of his original mericlones & only manage to bloom the blush with the light ribs. So I asked him about it & he told me he also noticed that when it was a bit warmer, his flowers bloomed with a less pronounced red rib & a bit of a blush.
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I believe that day length (or rather the shortening of the day/lenghtening of the night) is the key stimulant for initiating C walkeriana flower spikes. I believe that the gradual change from a 14 hour summer day to about a 10- 11 hour autumn day is what triggers the spike initiation.
This is good to know! I was wondering why my walkeriana spike stopped progress when I threw it under lights. They are on for about 13-14 hours. Time to make them MUCH shorter!
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:54 PM
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Great information. I will try to lower my temperature a bit when the others start to spike.


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That's very pretty !
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It seems that everyone likes walkerianas and I am no exception. It is a beautiful flower. The only negative thing I would say is that walkeriana plants lack a lot in the "pretty" department. I would, however, still like to have at least a hundred and would if I could afford them. They seem to be so darn expensive.
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Old 12-01-2011, 01:14 PM
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I have only one Regular type of the species, I want to get a couple Wild looking plants. II always love finding orchids insitu, and have a great appreciation for wild looking plants. I also want to balance my collection out with nice crosses etc. I have a 4 coerulea forms, alba, flamea, and only one Reular type.
I would like more info on Japanese cultural methods. Potting etc.
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I have to import walkers, or wait for spring to so the Canadian vendors will ship.
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