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Old 08-18-2010, 04:27 PM
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It comes and goes, but never ends the dispute on the purity of this alba clone. I cannot prove it beyond any doubt, but after a while growing it I am convinced it is not pure, but a hybrid with (low, its true!) participation of Cattleya loddigesii..., but a hybrid anyway!
The second photo shows a flower of regular shape, but large for the species. The fragrance, as always, is fabulous!

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Old 08-18-2010, 11:44 PM
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It's gorgeous!
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:52 AM
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Really nice. Wonderful white.

What features make you think it's a hybrid? (not disputing, just looking to learn).
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Totally lovely, whatever it may be.

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Love the TIPO it is fabulous! We have to get the result of the DNA testing they did with this albas, semi-albas and TIPO.

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Really nice. Wonderful white.

What features make you think it's a hybrid? (not disputing, just looking to learn).
Rosie, here are some: Lip structure (both the central lobe and side lobes don't match with the plants normally found in nature). The flower that is always born atop of a leafed and enlarged pseudo-bulb (the regular is a perfect floral stem, not enlarged, without leaf, emerging from the base of the new pseudo-bulb); the height of the pseudo-bulbs, which are taller and thinner than the normal;
Sometimes, to justify the presence of a leafed pseudo-bulb with the flowers emerging from the top, not the base, some say that it would be the variety princeps. This so called variety princeps are occasionally found in nature, but in my opinion, these plants are not pure, having obviously genetic introgression of Cattleya loddigesii.
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They are both lovely!
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Rosie, here are some: Lip structure (both the central lobe and side lobes don't match with the plants normally found in nature). The flower that is always born atop of a leafed and enlarged pseudo-bulb (the regular is a perfect floral stem, not enlarged, without leaf, emerging from the base of the new pseudo-bulb); the height of the pseudo-bulbs, which are taller and thinner than the normal;
Sometimes, to justify the presence of a leafed pseudo-bulb with the flowers emerging from the top, not the base, some say that it would be the variety princeps. This so called variety princeps are occasionally found in nature, but in my opinion, these plants are not pure, having obviously genetic introgression of Cattleya loddigesii.
I agree with you. I have found the link in Orchid board regarding the DNA on walkeriana, loggdigesii and nobilor. Take interest on catwalker808 explanation that pendentive and its close relatives are not true walkeriana. Here is the link http://www.orchidboard.com/community...not-kenny.html. You have read this too Ted.

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I agree with you. I have found the link in Orchid board regarding the DNA on walkeriana, loggdigesii and nobilor. Take interest on catwalker808 explanation that pendentive and its close relatives are not true walkeriana. Here is the link http://www.orchidboard.com/community...not-kenny.html. You have read this too Ted.

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Thanks for the link, Ramón!
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They are both beauties!
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