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By the way Gena... do you know if that true mustard color is the "average" for william Clarke's seedlings...it is even more beautiful than herrenhusanum yellow.
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This cross (like a lot of Cycnoches crosses) is highly variable with its progeny. Here are two plants from my collection. Cycnoches William Clarke

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The first one was a burnt orange color and the form took after the cooperi parent and the second had a lot of yellow and green in it with the shape closer to that of the herrenhusanum parent. You will also notice that both of my plants are completely different than Gena's too! Sorry for the poor picture in the first one though. I've improved my photography skills quite a bit in the past few years!
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By the way Gena... do you know if that true mustard color is the "average" for william Clarke's seedlings..
More or less, Jan. As I know very often you can find a bit more “greenish” coloration, often in combination with copper shades at the edge of sepals and petals (like here http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-4594468...0_2069_3071973 ). Once I’ve seen light copper-coloured Cycnoches William Clarke. Here, cultivar ‘Pine Ridge’, is quite close to mine Pine Ridge Orchids - Photos - Cyc. & Cycd. hybrids . So, they can be variable.
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Jan,
This cross (like a lot of Cycnoches crosses) is highly variable with its progeny. Here are two plants from my collection. Cycnoches William Clarke

Cycnoches William Clarke

The first one was a burnt orange color and the form took after the cooperi parent and the second had a lot of yellow and green in it with the shape closer to that of the herrenhusanum parent. You will also notice that both of my plants are completely different than Gena's too! Sorry for the poor picture in the first one though. I've improved my photography skills quite a bit in the past few years!
Great, Steve! Your first one it's exactly what I meant when I said "a bit more “greenish” coloration, often in combination with copper shades at the edge of sepals and petals". Beautiful illustration!
I love your second one. It's gorgeous!
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This cross (like a lot of Cycnoches crosses) is highly variable with its progeny. Here are two plants from my collection. Cycnoches William Clarke

Cycnoches William Clarke

The first one was a burnt orange color and the form took after the cooperi parent and the second had a lot of yellow and green in it with the shape closer to that of the herrenhusanum parent. You will also notice that both of my plants are completely different than Gena's too! Sorry for the poor picture in the first one though. I've improved my photography skills quite a bit in the past few years!
wow... that's variability... if I would have all 3 plants presented, without tellinbg me they are the same cross, I would have not guessed it...

all 3 are gorgeous!!
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okydoky... so that hybrid have a large spectrum with "greenish-mustardy" colors in the average...I will love tohave the real yellow-mustard William Clarke Gena Have, but all the rest of colors are also very pretty by their own.

Thanks all for the answers
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My plant is blooming now for the first time. I do like the coloration
Gena what a nice plant, however I feel in your comment that shape is something you don´t like very much (I might be wrong ??). In any case the plant is very cool. By the way I enjoyed all written conversation in this post.
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however I feel in your comment that shape is something you don´t like very much (I might be wrong ??).
No, Bruno, you are absolutely right!
What I do not like in mine it is a form, as you correctly noted. Look at both Steve’s plants – both of them do have much better form in my opinion. They are more “cooperi-like” in form. Mine has the inheritance from herrenhusanum in form of quite twisted petals. This I do not like so much. In pure herrenhusanum it looks charming, because of more compact form, but here ..... well, we will see ....

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I totally agree with you, it would have been much more attractive if the flower arrangement was much more compacted.
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