Staggered Blooms

[Jerry Delaney]

Once a week. However that is not accurate for this plant. It sits on one corner of my middle bench and the exhaust fans kind of drag a fine mist from the under the bench misters and ~1/4 of the plant gets some of that mist. Since it is in sphagnum it stays pretty moist all of the time. It only sees fertilizer with the once per week regular watering.

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

I am new at this Bulbo game. Tried some maybe 15 - 20 years ago; managed to kill them all! The Cirr makoyanum is blooming OK (I guess?) but the inflorescences seem to mature sporadically. Is that normal for this species or is there something I can do to get more blooms open at the same time. I know that this way, the blooming period is prolonged, but at least twice this many blooms have already gone and there is more coming. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Oh, the second bloom is a cross of fascinator and bicolor.

Jerry sorry to be a killjoy but if you are calling the two thumbnail pictures on the left Cirrhopetalum makoyanum then you are wrong. Sorry! It is hard to diagnose from pictures but your plant IMHO is a either a Bulbophyllum flabelloveneris (syn Cirrhopetalum lepidum) which is my first guess or the hybrid Cirrhopetalum Daisy Chain). My guess as to why you are calling it C.m. is because somewhere along the line the labels faded and the person supplying the plant could only read half the label which originally was Cirrhopetalum Daisy Chain (Cirrhopetalum amesiana X Cirrhopetalum makoyanum). Because they could only read the C.m. part, when they divided the plant all the new label had on was C.m. and not the name of the hybrid and its one parent. Does that make any sense? Myrrh & Fankincense posted a similar thread on 16th May 2008 and I told him the same thing (excpet my thoughts on why his plant is labelled as C.m.) Check it out. I got my friend Henny to post a picture of what the true C.m. looks like and he did but it was saved in the gallery as "Recent photos" and so you cannot access it now. I will get him to repost. Whatever label you put on it it is still a cute plant. The flower spikes arise on different pseudobulbs and therefore there is different conditions prevailing. The bigger your plant gets the more varied the maturation of your spikes is going to be. It is a natural thing so do not worry about it. As somebody said it prolongs the flowering period dfor you to enjoy the flowers for a longer period. so enjoy

[Jerry Delaney]

Thanks for the information Mike. I know so little about this genera that I am MORE than willing to accept either of your guesses. In this genera I wouldn't even hazard a guess. I can see how such a thing could happen. In fact, I'll confess that the plant came to me labeled Cirr. mokoyanum and in investigating the name decided this was what it should be. Ha, ha, we were both wrong! Think for right now, I will just put a label on it of Cirr. ? unless you are positive that it is lepidum. I honestly would rather it just went along in life as a noid than to label it wrong. I absolutely hate it when I get orchids labeled one thing and they turn out to be something completely different. Does the second cross look feasible? Once again, thanks for the correction Mike.

[kavanaru]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

The Cirr makoyanum is blooming OK (I guess?)

OK!!??

That plant is gorgeous!!! Congrats!

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

Thanks for the information Mike. I know so little about this genera that I am MORE than willing to accept either of your guesses. In this genera I wouldn't even hazard a guess. I can see how such a thing could happen. In fact, I'll confess that the plant came to me labeled Cirr. mokoyanum and in investigating the name decided this was what it should be. Ha, ha, we were both wrong! Think for right now, I will just put a label on it of Cirr. ? unless you are positive that it is lepidum. I honestly would rather it just went along in life as a noid than to label it wrong. I absolutely hate it when I get orchids labeled one thing and they turn out to be something completely different. Does the second cross look feasible? Once again, thanks for the correction Mike.

Jerry (and Sandy if you read this) first of all I do not go in for hybrids so I have no comment on the second photo. I am positive that your plant is not Cirrhopetalum makoyanum and about 99% positive it is flabelloveneris (syn. lepidum). Go onto the internet and type in the 3W's (www) followed by the . (dot) then this address unievie.ac.at/HBV/categories.php?cat_id=888l=english
This should bring you to the University of Vienna page for the section Cirrhopetalum in Bulbophyllums.If it does not change the lowercase letter L to a 1. Click on makoyanum and you will see why I say that it is not makoyanum then go back to the index page and look for either lepidum or flabelloveneris and you will see why I say 99%. And for Sandy look for amesianum on that index page and click on it to view then go to this website (add the 3 X W's and dot before it) flickr.com/photos/scott361/2216438326 to see what an awarded (by AOS) clone of Daisy Chain looks like and you will understand my concerns about the labelling of your plants. If you do not get to the required website try changing the 361 to 301 (sometimes I cannot read my own writing! ) Enjoy!

[Mike O'C]

Jerry (and Sandy) Sorry I gave you a misprint in the address in that I said "unievie" when it should just be "univie". When you go to the address you may be taken straight to their home page and so you will first have to click on "BULBOPHYLLUM" and then when they list all the sections click on the Cirrhopetalum section. Go through all the sections if you have the time (an can pay the phone bills!)

[Jerry Delaney]

Mike, I tried to open up the url you sent but no luck. So, went to another site and copied pictures of Cirr. makoyanum and Cirr. flabelloveneris, compared them side by side, and you are correct Mike. I may not be absolutely sure if it is Cirr flabelloveneris but there is NO doubt that it is NOT Cirr. makoyanum!! Thanks for setting things straight Mike.

[Dorothy]

Try this link for the University of Vienna - Bulbophyllum, Section Macrobulbon - Botanical Gardens,Vienna
Bulbophyllum, Section Macrobulbon

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

Mike, I tried to open up the url you sent but no luck. So, went to another site and copied pictures of Cirr. makoyanum and Cirr. flabelloveneris, compared them side by side, and you are correct Mike. I may not be absolutely sure if it is Cirr flabelloveneris but there is NO doubt that it is NOT Cirr. makoyanum!! Thanks for setting things straight Mike.

Jerry I would change the label to flabelloveneris. Nobody will argue with you and it would probably be correct! I am sorry you could not open the website for the University of vienna. They have some nice Bulbophyllum pictures. Do a Google search (under my favourites the site is called Bulbophyllums A to Z aus dem botanische tuine or something like that). I would try the link that Dorothy gave you and hopefully it will work. Also do a google search for Haru's page. He grows lots of Bulbophyllums and has some nice photos. Had another look at your hybrid. It is pretty. As I told you I only grow species and have both the parents of your hybrid but have never flowered them. My fascinator nearly died but is making a come back but my bicolor is just getting bigger but no flowers. The green dorsal of your hybrid looks like Mastigion (Bulbophyllum) putidum but the partly unfolded ventral sepals of your hybrid would suggest a hybrid and not a pure fascinator. So your label is probably correct.

[Jerry Delaney]

Thanks for the help on the web site Dorothy. The pictures were wonderful! Mike, I went to Haru's page and once getting there realized that it's all his fault that I am in this mess anyway!!!! I found this page about a couple of years and shortly there after succumbed and bought a dozen or so. His photos are fantastic! One question about his page. If I look at the first 5 pictures in the plate Cirr. makoyanum, they look more like the plant I have while picture #6 (bottom right) looks more like the Cirr. makoyanum in the Vienna pictures. Am I missing something?? I will change the label on mine Mike to Cirr flabelloveneris (?) and that way split the difference!!!!