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Old 02-15-2010, 12:22 AM
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Hi Judy,

here's a picture of my peloric phal, it blooms forever, takes a couple months off and starts again. This time she gave me two spikes.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:36 AM
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Peloric comes in all degrees, from slightly to severe. Here are a few examples. I'm not sure if the last one is considered peloric or just a severe mutation of another kind? Maybe someone can answer this?
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:05 PM
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Even though I have used the term peloric or peloria for many years, I did not consider it as anything other than a "mutation". This thread prompted me to find a better definition and the following I found in my web search.

Peloric (petals)
Relates to a flower with a radially symmetrical arrangement of perianth members (sepals and petals of a flower considered together), while the species normally has an asymmetrical arrangement. In orchids, the labellum (lip) is considered the "asymmetrical arrangement" and therefore peloria in the petals would fit this definition.

Semi-peloric (sepals)
Describing a flower in which the abnormal perianth members (sepals and petals) give a misleading appearance of being peloric. As an example, in the semi-peloric Bee Orchid the labellum (lip) resembles the sepals. If it were truly peloric it would resemble the upper petals.

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Floral symmetry refers to whether, and how, a flower can be divided into two or more identical or mirror-image parts.
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Having a mutation such that a normally asymmetric flower becomes radially symmetric
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Relates to a flower with a radially symmetrical arrangement of perianth members, while the species normally has an asymmetrical arrangement. 
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A term coined by Darwin to describe a mutant flower that has many planes of reflectional symmetry.
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Hope this goes a little way in clarifying the term for all of us.

CL

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Old 02-16-2010, 09:06 PM
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Thanks everyone for the clarification. And I love the pictures, they are all beautiful--thanks for sharing!
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What is noid? It seems to crop up quite often.
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What is noid? It seems to crop up quite often.
No identification. It simply means that the name of the plant, often a hybrid, is not known.

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Old 02-17-2010, 03:56 PM
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Thanks Susan.

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