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Old 11-03-2019, 01:39 PM
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my baby Milt is yellowing from bottom of stem up .I've had it 2 1/2 months.its in 4”clear plastic pot,medium is bark.it sits on a shelf 18” down from North window. Humidity is 45% temp is 73F ,65F at night. I put it in bathroom when shower is on then back on shelf when steam is gone. Last watered it oct.27.checked bamboo stick & it’s wet.not sopping but discoloured. I put plant on heat register to dry out. I water (rain water lukewarm) usually 10-14 days in winter. I’ve given it weak orchid (Shultz)fertilizer 2-3 times. I water from top down let it sit apx 10 minutes then drain in sink . I’m thinking about keeping it in bathroom but maybe it’s to dark in there? 1 small window higher up & 1 frosted window. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. To wet? To cold? To light? Not enough light? I have southeast ,also east windows & 1 northwest window I can put it in.. if it’s in wrong place/ I don’t know why it’s yellowing,it’s lost 3 small leaves already advice? Ideas?

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Old 11-03-2019, 02:38 PM
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Old 11-03-2019, 03:48 PM
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I can’t tell how bad the yellowing is. The ones I’ve had, if the big pseudobulbs start going I can’t save them. They want to stay evenly moist but not wet and they don’t ever want to dry out completely. They want to stay in 70s max. I could see putting it on a heat register doing major damage. They like bright shade: bright light without direct sun. I killed my first two, but I learned from them and have kept the next three going for over a year now and bought three more this summer. I like clay pots for them, they breathe and I can tell from the color of the clay when they’re getting a bit too dry.

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Old 11-03-2019, 06:30 PM
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Taking a second look at your pictures the media looks pretty dry. I realize there are a lot of different ways to grow orchids but, mine are in a finer more moisture retentive mix. These guys also don’t like their roots disturbed so be gentle during repots. Are you seeing any actively growing root tips? It can also take time, a couple months is not much when it comes to orchids so your plant could still be going through an adjustment phase.
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Old 11-03-2019, 08:44 PM
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aliceinwl..no it’s not dry ..I have a bamboo skewer in there & it’s wet. Not sopping but definitely discoloured. The medium is small bark,peralite & something else lol..it’s still in the medium the nursery used. I’m being carful of roots ,I noticed they are small & delicate. I don’t think there are any new roots yet. There are a lot of roots in the pot but I’ve not taken plant out of pot since I got it & don’t plan on taking it out anytime soon, I want it to be a lot bigger & stronger before I even think about repotting.Maybe I’m just being overly paranoid 🤔 thinking it over maybe some benign neglect is what it needs .ive been doing a lot of reading & according to research I have it in ok spot for light I think ,although I may move it up onto window sill because it’s mostly greyish skylight now that it’s starting to snow here ..humidity is low but I put it in bathroom when shower is on then back on shelf after steam clears. So maybe it is still adjusting like you suggested. Thanks for advice. I’m almost sure I overwatered it so will be more careful about that now🙂 I’m sure the bamboo skewers I put in all my plants yesterday will be a big help in knowing when to water .

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Old 11-03-2019, 10:48 PM
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With the skewers, I found it helpful to press them against my cheek, for this one I’d shoot for slightly wetter than damp (if you have Paphiopedilum I shoot for similar conditions). I also try to make a mental note of pot weight just after I water versus just before I water and as time passes I go off this more than the skewers.

This is the one orchid I’ve managed to kill despite my best efforts so I’m a bit paranoid with mine too. If the new growth comes out crinkled that would be an indication that it’s being kept too dry (just don’t over compensate). Your growing conditions sound good so it might just be a waiting game.
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Old 11-04-2019, 12:30 AM
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aliceinwl..thanks.. I decided to leave it alone for awhile..give it a chance to grow without my constant attention 🤓🧐..I don’t want to “kill it with kindness” 😁it will most likely do fine without my interference! From what I’ve been reading it’s most likely I overwatered. 😒
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Old 11-04-2019, 02:06 AM
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I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. To wet? To cold? To light? Not enough light? I have southeast ,also east windows & 1 northwest window I can put it in.. if it’s in wrong place/ I don’t know why it’s yellowing,it’s lost 3 small leaves already advice? Ideas?
Could be a fungal or bacteria attack due to some portion of the plant being being too moist - probably some bits in the base of the plant - water trapped inside there, leading to rotting.

At this stage, an orchid anti-fungal and/or antibacteria remedy could help. In my kit, I have a product called yates anti-rot phosacid, which is apparently a phosphorous acid, and sold as a systematic fungicide. I also have cleary's 3336 and other treatments. After applying a systematic fungicide to the leaves and all around the stem region (and then tipping the plant on its side to drain any excess liquid fungicide treatment - wearing gloves etc), you could then just give the plant good air-circulation, while keeping the bark moist (damp). Provide a decent amount of natural light to allow the plant to recover.

Maybe could also try not putting the plant inside the bathroom for getting moisture/humidity etc, as it could be picking up something from the bathroom moisture. Hard to say for now.

Some general golden rules would be:

a) Provide good air circulation to the plant (leaves and roots). Not necessarily windy conditions, but light air flow at nearly all times - is good for preventing fungal and bacteria issues, and also good for the roots (if the media is airy enough, and allows air to flow through nicely, which also requires decent size holes at the bottom of the pot).

It looks like your pot and media are fine. If the pot has good size holes on the bottom of it, then that will be good.

b) Water the media and roots only - if possible. Don't wet the leaves too much, unless the air-circulation is so good that the leaves will dry out relatively fast. Actually, I usually avoid getting the leaves wet. Avoid getting water into the pockets between the leaves, where water can accumulate between the leaves at the base of the orchid. Of course, in nature (in the wild) - the orchid doesn't have somebody to help with these things. But, in the wild, orchids might grow at different angles, like on their sides, or upside down etc, so water might not accumulate in the crown or in pockets etc. Or the region that orchids grow (in the wild, or some outdoor environments) may have conditions where the plant just doesn't get water stagnating in it or around it - which is nice.

c) Provide adequate amount of light for the orchid to grow comfortably.

d) Occasionally - whenever you want, such as once a week or once every couple of weeks - allow the media to dry right out. This would be to give anything that you don't want to grow inside the pot a hard time. Eg. algae etc. Actually - I think what can also help is to not use a clear pot. Clear pots are nice in some ways, but can be problematic in other ways - like allows light through for growing algae, which can then die and rot, and ..... we know where this is going.

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SouthPark, thanks for the input.when I say I water from top I mean on top of medium not leaves.i try not to get to much water on them. I will try your suggestion with putting plant into another darker pot. And let it dry out a bit more before watering. I’m also putting it in SE window for more light for awhile to see if it likes it there better . I’m only doing these things one at a time though . 😁🧐
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