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Old 10-06-2019, 12:37 PM
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Ray, it's not being curmudgeonly.

The product lists 2 (only 2) active ingredients (listed bacteria/yeast). Are they patent-protected special varieties? Labeling does not indicate this. But then we hear there are also unlisted bacteria in the consort to which a significant part of product efficacy is attributed. Can't tell you what they are, just trust us. That's closer to faith healing than science IMO.

I am suspicious, and have stated my reasons. I doubt I will convince you or vice-versa. To others, caveat emptor; buy with your eyes open. I'm done, moving on.
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Ray, it's not being curmudgeonly.

The product lists 2 (only 2) active ingredients (listed bacteria/yeast). Are they patent-protected special varieties? Labeling does not indicate this. But then we hear there are also unlisted bacteria in the consort to which a significant part of product efficacy is attributed. Can't tell you what they are, just trust us. That's closer to faith healing than science IMO.

I am suspicious, and have stated my reasons. I doubt I will convince you or vice-versa. To others, caveat emptor; buy with your eyes open. I'm done, moving on.
You could use google to answer these questions yourself...but I'll give you some help:

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there is a lot more complexity to their product than subtillis and cerevisae and the premise of your argument in this thread belies a modern understanding of microbiology. I get that you're a skeptic but your arguments about the product are hardly in good faith here. its snake oil because they won't tell you how to make their product? in what universe would a biotechnology company spell out how to recreate their product? the primary consumer of concentric ag is commercial scale agriculture- I suspect the company wouldn't be expanding if they were selling farmers snake oil...
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