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Old 12-15-2012, 04:31 PM
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I have phal that is about to die from crown rot, there is only one leaf left, however it has a spike.
Spike has several nodes but hasn't bloomed yet.
Would that spike work for your method?
Thanks.
Yes this is a perfect example of an ideal spike to use for this method. im going to post picture's of what the stem segments should look like in a couple of minutes.
If you need anyhelp i would be happy to help you one on one

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Old 12-15-2012, 04:33 PM
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Thanks for posting this! I have a question though. Is there something I can substitute for vermiculite? Would sphagnum moss work?
Yes sphagnum would work just make sure to boil(or better yet pressure cook) it and rinse very well prior to use. Or if you are using a paclobutrazol soak it should not matter if you sterilize the medium or not even if you used potting soil it would work with paclobutrazol applied. The only reason i reccomend vermiculite is because mold cannot grow in it as there is not nutrients so if not using a fungicide other substrates will cause problems unless sterilized
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:46 PM
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Yes sphagnum would work just make sure to boil(or better yet pressure cook) it and rinse very well prior to use. Or if you are using a paclobutrazol soak it should not matter if you sterilize the medium or not even if you used potting soil it would work with paclobutrazol applied. The only reason i reccomend vermiculite is because mold cannot grow in it as there is not nutrients so if not using a fungicide other substrates will cause problems unless sterilized
ill definitely try with sphag! so now i have to find some paclobutrazol....
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:54 PM
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ill definitely try with sphag! so now i have to find some paclobutrazol....
We sell paclobutrazol if you cant find anywhere to get it, and i am pretty sure you can get it in LARGE quantities on ebay if you want 25 grams or more but paclobutrazol is extremely dangerous in it's concentrated form so it is wise to work with a pre-mixed solution or paste. it is 12.50 for our paclobutrazol solutions and pastes and we mix them fresh at the concentration required by the person buying it so you will never need to worry whether or not the solution or paste will work for your purpose.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:36 PM
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If you would like i can include a small amount of paclobutrazol in with the rooting hormone i'm already sending you. just let me know if you want it.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:10 AM
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This is also a great way to grow your collection if you dont mind asking local nursery's if they mind giving you their spent flower spikes when they remove them from the plant.

P.s. With plants that have multiple spikes you can get 12 or more keiki's using this method instead of the regular 3 or 4 that is recommended when the plants remain attached to the mother through the growing process.

If you still don't understand how this is possible heres a little more detailed of an explanation.

Each flower stem usually has between 3-6 dormant nodes and each of these can become a Keiki. So when you cut the spike into sections you leave them each to fend for themselves instead of them all sharing the same nutrients. this prevents some from getting big while the other ones die out due to lack of energy, and prevents already sick mother plants from dying from the energy expenditure involved in the production of the Keiki.

You can decrease the length of time it takes to obtain roots and transplant your new Keiki to 6 months-1 year by either using one of the many Kelp Spray products on the market at 1/3 the dosage for houseplants, or by using KultureShocks Proprietary blend of Kelp extract, Indole butyric acid, Indole acetic acid, and brassinolide.

The wider array of rooting hormones combined with the steroidal effects of brassinolide make KultureShock's formula a bit more effective so if you have a plant that you desperately want to get to root our solution will provide faster results and resistance to drought,cold shock, transpant shock,and disease further increasing your chances of success...

This simple method allows you to obtain up to 12 Keiki's per plant without putting stress on the mother plant, as the flower spike is already removed prior to keiki paste application. KultureShock[/URL]

I like the idea and the project.
Just a little comment - my understanding is that this is your first time experiment... and that you only have 2 Phals as stated on your Profile.
Isn't it a bit premature to advertise your supplements?

While I'm relatively new and open for suggestions, some of the members on board have been growing orchids for decades.

Just a thought as I find some statements made here... a bit too bold to my personal taste.

Thanks!
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:39 PM
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I like the idea and the project.
Just a little comment - my understanding is that this is your first time experiment... and that you only have 2 Phals as stated on your Profile.
Isn't it a bit premature to advertise your supplements?

While I'm relatively new and open for suggestions, some of the members on board have been growing orchids for decades.

Just a thought as I find some statements made here... a bit too bold to my personal taste.

Thanks!
L.
good point but i have done this method before i just have never documented it. The only new additionthis time around is paclobutrazol so even if the growth is not sped up by the paclobutrazol(and it seems to be and there are studies done by other people suggesting this as well) it is still a well documented fungicide so it should work for that purpose, as for the other claims all the you have to do to verify them is look up the countless studies that have been released on the effect's of brassinolide, indole butyric acid, and indole acetic acid. And yes i currently only have two phals i moved at the end of summer and had to part with some of my collection. I have been doing breeding experiments with orchids for the past 3 years
so have plenty of experience maybe not as much as alot of people on this board but still enough to post this and be confident that others will have the same success i did.

Best regards,
Kevin Disher

Edit: my collection just got larger again just had an order of 3 oncidiums and 2 epidendrums arrive in the mail i'll post pictures once i get them re-potted. they arrived in pure sphagnum, and i don't have high hopes for the roots hence re-potting so soon

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Old 12-24-2012, 05:00 PM
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I just did this on mine, hopefully I'm successful! I did it on my P. amboinensis 'Nicole' and my P. Angdi Kolopaking
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:42 PM
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I just did this on mine, hopefully I'm successful! I did it on my P. amboinensis 'Nicole' and my P. Angdi Kolopaking
i think you should have good luck with it for sure

Did you remember the coconut water? its the most important step without it the nodes wont have the nutrients they need to grow into a keiki

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Old 12-24-2012, 09:20 PM
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I thought the coconut water didn't come until once they actually show growth
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