Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Members Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Today's PostsCleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-02-2011, 07:11 PM
josterha josterha is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Zone: 5b
Location: Chicago
Age: 50
Posts: 114
Default Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum

Hi,

I was very excited to see my Epidendrum nocturnum var. mini-nocturnum starting to bud. The bud got bigger and fatter and then just turned brown. I thought the plant was dehydrated and the bud had basically aborted. Today I realized that it actually self-pollinated without opening (cleistogamy). So now I have this seed pod growing. What should I do with it? Is it worth saving? Just because this bloom was cleistogamous, does that mean every bloom will be? I suppose I could have it flasked. I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks,

John
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-02-2011, 07:33 PM
Dima Dima is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: California
Posts: 28
Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Male
Default

Yes, Epidendrum nocturnum blooms can be cleistogamous. See e.g. Stort and Pavanelli, Ann. Bot. 55, 331 (1985): "Under greenhouse conditions, Epidendrum nocturnum Jacq. plants produce fruits by both self-fertilization and
cleistogamy. Although adapted to these reproductive processes the species respond also to cross-pollination."
I seriously hope not all of the blooms on your plant will be that way though .
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-02-2011, 07:39 PM
glengary54 glengary54 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,467
Default

Josterha - Not necessarily, look at Enc tampensis as an example, it does self polinate but not all flowers.

Just one other thing the plant that you list as Epi nocturn var mini-nocturnum is actually a separate species from nocturnum, it is correctly Epi mininocturnum or so the experts say.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-03-2011, 12:55 PM
josterha josterha is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2008
Zone: 5b
Location: Chicago
Age: 50
Posts: 114
Default

Glen,

Thanks. I was typing on the fly and wasn't sure of the correct nomenclature.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-03-2011, 04:15 PM
Bud's Avatar
Bud Bud is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Zone: 7b
Location: Manhattan, NY
Age: 39
Posts: 8,411
Default

thats a strange plant...to make babies when not even bothering to show us its bloom? oh well you must have been asleep when it opened cause its nocturnal?
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes glengary54 liked this post
  #6  
Old 09-03-2011, 05:34 PM
SOS SOS is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Zone: 9b
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 387
Cleistogamous Epidendrum nocturnum Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bud View Post
thats a strange plant...to make babies when not even bothering to show us its bloom? oh well you must have been asleep when it opened cause its nocturnal?


Some organisms just like to play with themselves. All of my Aerangis punctata did it this year were seasons past they did not. Next year?
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes glengary54 liked this post
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
bloom, bud, cleistogamous, cleistogamy, epidendrum mininocturnum, nocturnum, epidendrum


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Epidendrum pitanga & Epidendrum schomburgkii Rosim_in_BR Cattleya Alliance 1 11-18-2009 10:05 PM
Epidendrum nocturnum Rosim_in_BR Cattleya Alliance 11 04-04-2009 08:46 PM
Epidendrum Nocturnum frosty-m Cattleya Alliance 4 01-17-2009 02:02 PM
EPIDENDRUM NOCTURNUM betoguerrero Cattleya Alliance 6 10-01-2008 09:43 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.