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Old 04-01-2011, 06:52 AM
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Here on Orchid Board we have Zero Tolerance for Spam. But on another thread a user asked how we define spam and I think it is worth laying this out as a sticky of so it's clear to everyone and no-one worries about doing it accidentally.

Spam
Posts with links in the post which have no reason to be there, are not relevant for the discussion and seem to be only there to raise search engine ratings/get people to click on them.

Links in signatures or posts linking to external sites which do not relate to orchids and/or are trying to sell something. Note that at moderator discretion established members (with a guideline figure of at least 50 posts) are allowed links to their legitimate business selling orchid related items (or items that could be useful in orchid growing).

Not Spam
Posting in the wrong part of the forum... we may move a post if it is blatantly wrong, or if we think it would get answers in a different area. But no-one will tell anyone off for posting in the wrong area and there are often times when it's unclear where is the best place.

Posting off topic comments on orchid threads... although spammers often do this, doing so is not in itself spam. Very often topics may veer off into slightly/very off topic discussion. If this is the way the conversation has gone then so be it, that's part of the comunity.

Posting a new thread about something already discussed... in fact in some cases it's better to do this. If there is a discussion on an orchid you would like more help on but the post is quite old then responding to the existing post may not get seen by many people, so it is often better to start a new one. It's still good to search for existing threads, but if they don't answer the question don't worry about starting a new one.

What to Do if you spot Spam
Do - report all spam using the 'infraction' red card, or the 'report post' warning triangle

Do - report spam from someone who you think is a genuine member (with previous participation in the board) but use the 'report post' option in this case.

Don't - respond to the spammer, especially don't quote their spam in a responce as it is easily missed when cleaning up the spam and may actually mean their spam is still there in your quote.

Moderator Responce to Spam Reports/Infractions

We don't ban anyone who seems to be a genuine user who has made a mistake, without multiple warnings first. If a user who has previously been taking a genuine part in the forum then posts spam they will be warned and the spam links removed.

If we are unsure if it is spam and we think it may be a new user who didn't realise they were doing something wrong then we will remove the spam links and warn them.

If it seems obvious spam from a new user or looks like a spam bot they will be banned, the spam posts deleted with no questions asked and no warning.

The decision of obvious spam and unsure if it may be genuine is with the moderators. To be honest many of them are pretty obvious.

Sometimes a new users posts look like spam but there are no links. These user are watch to see if spam is added later (sometimes it's a week or so later).

Hard to Spot Spam... what to look out for
Some spammers are getting more clever at disguising their spam. Here is a list of the things that make me suspicious.

ANY link from a new user. Does it look like a spam link. If so report it. My advise is avoid clicking on them though incase it's malicious.

Spammers posting in intros. This occurs in two ways. Spammers saying welcome to other users with a spam link in their post, or spammers saying "Hi I'm new too" on an existing intro thread. Even some brand new intro threads have later proved to be spammers.

Badly used English with accompanying links. While of course we have new genuine members who struggle with English it is very common that spammers don't word their messages very well. Generally if I see this with no links I will check several messages from them to see if they seem genuine or not (the links are a give away in most though).

Generic text about Orchid. You see ones where the text is about the correct orchid but at the same time is not relevant to the Thread. Often if you cut and paste a part of the text into google you will find it's almost (almost but often not quite) word for word from another website (often OrchidWeb). These may or may not contain links but are worth watching for links appearing later.

Hidden Links. Now these are really difficult to spot. People have put yellow on yellow text with the link. These will generally be in posts that I would be suspicious for one of the above reasons. If you click and drag the cursor over the empty space in the post the background changes and you can just about see the link.

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Old 04-01-2011, 09:29 AM
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This is GREAT Rosie !
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Rosie, you ROCK!!!

Thanks for taking time from your busy life to do this for us
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:50 AM
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Thanks for the info Rosie, it was interesting to read what types to look out for ..... the evil part of my brain is now thinking which one of these spammer-idiots is going to try it on this thread!! (sorry, I can't help myself sometimes!!)
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:28 AM
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:14 AM
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Just want to say I appreciate all the spam reducing efforts.
It is often a cumbersome and thankless task....sooo

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Old 04-01-2011, 11:17 AM
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yeah rosie! thanks for being awesome, that goes for you and all mods!

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Old 04-01-2011, 07:11 PM
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This is very helpful, and thank you for clearing my thoughts. I'll help the anti-spam movement however I can
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This is useful in other venues, too. Thanks so much!
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:35 PM
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jeeze, I was hoping the most recent spam troll had the moxie to spam this thread
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