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Pests and Diseases
By Waldorbigbill at 2007-02-08 14:13

ugs create a host of problems and can seriously damage a collection if left untreated. Scales, mealybugs, aphids and mites are the most common orchid pests. You will find that bugs are attracted to certain genera. For instance, mealybugs like phalaenopsis and bifoliate cattleyas, while scale prefers cattleyas and cymbidiums. Aphids are attracted to the buds and flowers of dendrobiums and oncidiums, but they do not discriminate between orchid genera. Spider mites will show up when there is a lack of humidity especially on dendrobiums, oncidiums and cymbidiums.

Always keep a close eye out for bug damage. They like to hide under leaves and sheathing and, if left untreated, they will quickly spread through your collection. By removing old sheathing once it becomes loose, it will be easier to recognize the early signs of an insect problem. Scale depletes chlorophyll leaving yellow spots on the foliage. They also love to feast on the tender eyes at the base of the pseudobulbs. Aphids will leave a sticky residue on the foliage below where they are eating. Spider mites can be identified by the silvery scarring they leave under the leaves. The good news is that most orchid pests are easily exterminated. Home and garden sprays will provide a long list of bugs they will kill. We recommend spraying the plant, then manually cleaning it as much as you can with a Q-tip or toothbrush, followed by another treatment of spray. Follow up treatments after five to seven days may be necessary to fully eliminate the problem.

Schultz, Bayer and Ortho all carry a good line of sprays that are available at any garden center, hardware store or home improvement warehouse. For a less toxic approach, we recommend using denatured alcohol, neem oil or insecticidal soap. Remember to always be extra careful of what you spray, especially on the flowers, and always follow the manufacturer’s instructions to prevent plant and flower damage.



Slugs and snails chew flowers and buds as well as the tender new roots and growths. Bait is readily available and will do a good job of ridding your collection of these pests.



Ants can be a problem, especially when moving your orchids back inside in the fall. Orange Guard, a citric acid product, is a good way to eliminate these pests. However, if they are down in the mix, you will need to drench the pot with an insecticide or repot the plant.



Other orchid problems, like rot and fungus, can be treated by first removing the infected area with a sterile tool, then applying a fungicide spray or powdered cinnamon, which is a good natural fungicide. Improved air circulation can help prevent a reoccurrence of this problem. Flowers that have botrytis (small dark spots) should be removed to prevent spores from spreading to others blooms.





Any orchid exhibiting signs of a viral infection should be totally segregated as contact with diseased plant fluids will cause the virus to spread and may contaminate other plants. Any questionable plant should be tested and if it tests positive, it should be destroyed as there is no cure for orchid viruses. This is why it is so important to use sterile tools and equipment when handling your plants. Human contact and chewing insects are also vectors for spreading viruses.



We hope these tips will help you to be successful with your orchids. There are many orchid books, magazines, periodicals and internet sites that can help you to become a better grower. We also recommend that you go to the American Orchid Society link at the top of the page for individual culture sheets for all types of orchid genera. You will find growing orchids to be an exciting hobby. However, a word of caution, orchids are extremely addicting! Once you purchase your first plant, you will be ‘hooked’ for the rest of your life!

www.waldor.com

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by Tindomul on Thu, 2007-02-08 22:13
Excellent article. Extremely useful. Thanks for posting it. It helps me alot. I haven't encountered many of these pests and diseases yet, so Im a bit more wise thanks to you.

by Ross on Sat, 2007-02-10 17:28
Nice article, but too bad the photos are so small. It would be easier to see the pests/disease if the images were larger. Much useful info in this article.

by LauraN on Mon, 2007-02-19 21:08
I too really got a lot out of this article, but would really like it if the photos were larger, so that I could actually see the infected area.

by Ross on Mon, 2007-02-19 21:56
Welcome Laura. Please post under Intros so folks can properly introduce themselves and thanks for the second on picture size.

by R Srinivasan on Wed, 2007-02-21 17:19
The issue is why let pests take over your collection of orchids and other epiphytic plants. The infestation is generally an indication of poor lighting, inadequate breeze movement and under exposure to to bright light. I firmly beleive overcrowding of plants, over watering contribute a lot to pests. In all my forty years of orchid cultivation, pest seldom worried me save snails, slugs and tiny yellow corkscrew snails. These invaders come with nursery acquired potted plants, but can be controlled by wood alchohol based baits. As a preventive measure a periodic spray of branded pesticides keep all the insects away. Otherwise a healthy orchid always overwhelms pests. I must add here my recepie of orgnic control of pests: Make decoction of low-grade tea and tobacco(chewing variety) say 100 gms of each in 2 litres of boiling water. This should be diluted with equal measure of plain water and spray on plants. This definitely obliterates scales, mealy bugs and spider mites without staining the plants .

by LauraN on Wed, 2007-02-21 17:36
Your recipe certainly sounds interesting. I'll have to give it a try. What exactly do you mean by low grade tea?
I totally agree with you on the conditions. I have had very few infestation problems and do try to keep good lighting, air flow and I do try not to overwater. My biggest infestation problem has to be ants. I'm not sure why and love to hear some views on why and if I need to do something about, and what that would be.

by R Srinivasan on Thu, 2007-02-22 06:28
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Originally Posted by LauraN View Post
Your recipe certainly sounds interesting. I'll have to give it a try. What exactly do you mean by low grade tea?
I totally agree with you on the conditions. I have had very few infestation problems and do try to keep good lighting, air flow and I do try not to overwater. My biggest infestation problem has to be ants. I'm not sure why and love to hear some views on why and if I need to do something about, and what that would be.
Low grade tea , I mean, tea with high tanin content and less bouquet something we dont consume. This can be procured from shops dealing in loose tea and they are dust form. For instanse, ceylonese and Indian low altitude crops which are cheaper and the infusion is usually strong and of darker colour. When this is combined with tobacco, the resultant decoction brakes down the mucous membrane of insects with a deadly impact. This is almost like stinging of eyes by soap and perhaps worse for insects due to the persistance of the burning they suffer from this organic spray. I have used them on dahlia cuttings, then on various orchids without any damage to plants and at the same time taming the infestation dramatically , ants including.

by lyn on Thu, 2007-03-01 15:34
I have heard that smokers should not touch orchids without washing thier hands first because of tobacco mosaic virus. Is that true? Is the chewing tobacco different from smoking tobacco? Also how often do you spray? I also have an ant problem and was using safers soap but it only knocks them down for about a week. Do ants hurt orchids? I heard they bring aphids! Is that true?

by mayres on Thu, 2007-03-01 16:26
Yes it is true that ants "farm" both aphids AND mealy bugs. I can tell you from personal experience. The ants themselves are not a problem for orchids but you definately want to get rid of them because of what they bring WITH them. mike

by R Srinivasan on Fri, 2007-03-02 17:42
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Originally Posted by lyn View Post
I have heard that smokers should not touch orchids without washing thier hands first because of tobacco mosaic virus. Is that true? Is the chewing tobacco different from smoking tobacco? Also how often do you spray? I also have an ant problem and was using safers soap but it only knocks them down for about a week. Do ants hurt orchids? I heard they bring aphids! Is that true?
I guess commercially sold tobacco are free from TMV. Infected crops are burnt down along with normal crop in the vicinity. I have used tobacco+tea solution without any damage to my plants for years. I use chewing tobacco because it contains more nicotine. Mealy bugs and aphids prefer softer dicot plants like roses, hardy annuals rather orchids with thier waxy tough leaves. Ants are attracted by sugary secretion on the leaves of matured plants and on the emerging spikes. Mealy bugs and scales come adfrift in the wind to colonise on plants.

by gands on Tue, 2007-03-06 00:27
Great article,

There is a bit of a mis-conception about Tobacco mosaic virus I think. It is a virus that is found on Tobacco plants........hence the name. it can attack orchids as well, but really has nothing to do with smokers.

Also I would add that using tobacco as a pesticide works well because the nicotine in tobacco has a high degree of natural pyretherin in it. Forgive me, I'm not much of a speller LOL

As a side note, I have used a nicotine mixture for eliminating carpenter bees. Simply use a 50-50 mix of water and alcohol in a liter bottle and add 20-30 used cigarette butts to it. let it leach for about a week in the sun, kinda like making sun tea. then strain the mixture into a 2 gallon pump up sprayer, and spray into the holes that the bees make in wood..........They drop faster than you can shake a stick! Works on wasps as well and its cheaper than buying Raid !

by lyn on Tue, 2007-03-06 11:45
Ants are the biggest problem I have. I grow out by our screened in pool in the summer and they are on all the new buds and growths after the sugar. I have used safer soap, neem oil, a mix of dawn, alchohol and vegetable oil but I have to use it every 2 or three days! I was thinking about trying orthene, a systemic, so I do not have to spray as much. I hate using chemicals so I have not done it yet. I am also considering calling in a professional but I have pets that roam the pool deck and yard and really do not want chemicals around them. Has anyone tried a good systemic pesticide? Since benlate killed everything, have they come out with a good systemic fungicide? ~L~

by R Srinivasan on Tue, 2007-03-06 20:22
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Originally Posted by lyn View Post
Ants are the biggest problem I have. I grow out by our screened in pool in the summer and they are on all the new buds and growths after the sugar. I have used safer soap, neem oil, a mix of dawn, alchohol and vegetable oil but I have to use it every 2 or three days! I was thinking about trying orthene, a systemic, so I do not have to spray as much. I hate using chemicals so I have not done it yet. I am also considering calling in a professional but I have pets that roam the pool deck and yard and really do not want chemicals around them. Has anyone tried a good systemic pesticide? Since benlate killed everything, have they come out with a good systemic fungicide? ~L~
I wonder why should you use benlate to kill pests. It is an excellent fungicide to stem soft rot in phalaenopsis. For controlling ants the best I feel is carbofuran crystals available under different brand names. It is the same substance used in dog tick powder. No harm has come to my dog which like others of its tribe keeps licking its coat several times a day. Sprinkle carbofuran(also called carbaryl) around the growing medium and the ants will never seen around anymore. Since most of us water our orchids religiously every day washing out any pesticide (contact) applied earlier. This stand true to both organic and chemical pesticides. The two systemic pesticide that comes to my mind is cypermetherin and dimethoate. Check out the brands containing these chemicals and you should be free of the ants.

by lyn on Wed, 2007-03-07 15:47
Do not wonder why I use benlate to kill pests! I know it is a fungicide that was made by Dupont that put allot of fern growers in our area out of business and I believe I heard they put Jones and Scully Orchids out of business, among other growers! I was just trying to see what other orchidists are using for a systemic fungicide. Are you using it on your Phals. and if so is it a new formula? Have you used cypermetherin and dimethoate on orchids? I am definetly interested in the carbaryl but wonder how long it will last. I recently purchased some Fire Ant killer from Safer but have not tried it yet. I know fire ants are different from sugar ants so it may not help. Thanks so much for the info! ~L~

by R Srinivasan on Wed, 2007-03-07 18:16
American Orchid Society's jounal( mid seventys) Wherein well known orchidist Rebecca Tyson Northern elaborated on lethal dose factor of several pesticides.Today there more advanced formulations which are released in the market after extensive field trial.Moreover, the modern marketing mantra is customer care through help lines. Please make full use of them through online. It is so much easier than letting fear to rule your mind.

by 4page on Fri, 2007-04-13 06:12
thanks for the article and all the extra information from other members. The article has a picture of leaf spots and I have that problem on many of my orchids. Please tell what kind of problem it is since I tried all kinds of chemical from physan to neem oild. They did not go away.

by lyn on Fri, 2007-04-13 12:56
If I were you I would take a plant to your local agricultural extension service and let the master gardeners look at it. Also if there is an orchid society in your area that might be worth a try. Every plant I took to the Volusia County Orchid Society, there was a member who knew what to do. Also , do you have good air movement around your plants? That seems to help the ones I grow because most of them are the kind that grow in the tops of trees. Good Luck!

by Shadow on Fri, 2007-04-13 12:59
Just noticed this article. It's very useful. Thanks a lot!

by 4page on Thu, 2007-04-19 06:40
thanks Lyn. That is a good idea. I will have to learn how to post the picture so everybody can see the problem too. I am slow in new tech.

by lyn on Mon, 2007-04-23 16:14
I have a problen dealing with the technology end of it too but plan on improving in the future!

by chaucigirl on Sun, 2007-05-06 02:03
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Originally Posted by lyn View Post
Ants are the biggest problem I have. I grow out by our screened in pool in the summer and they are on all the new buds and growths after the sugar. I have used safer soap, neem oil, a mix of dawn, alchohol and vegetable oil but I have to use it every 2 or three days! I was thinking about trying orthene, a systemic, so I do not have to spray as much. I hate using chemicals so I have not done it yet. I am also considering calling in a professional but I have pets that roam the pool deck and yard and really do not want chemicals around them. Has anyone tried a good systemic pesticide? Since benlate killed everything, have they come out with a good systemic fungicide? ~L~
I have heard that orange oil works really well to eradicate ants from orchids and there pots. Also, if your orchids are on benches you can put cans around the legs with used motor oil in it and the ants won't cross it. I know this sounds gross but my husband raises bees and it works to keep ants out of the hives.

by chaucigirl on Sun, 2007-05-06 02:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Srinivasan View Post
The issue is why let pests take over your collection of orchids and other epiphytic plants. The infestation is generally an indication of poor lighting, inadequate breeze movement and under exposure to to bright light. I firmly beleive overcrowding of plants, over watering contribute a lot to pests. In all my forty years of orchid cultivation, pest seldom worried me save snails, slugs and tiny yellow corkscrew snails. These invaders come with nursery acquired potted plants, but can be controlled by wood alchohol based baits. As a preventive measure a periodic spray of branded pesticides keep all the insects away. Otherwise a healthy orchid always overwhelms pests. I must add here my recepie of orgnic control of pests: Make decoction of low-grade tea and tobacco(chewing variety) say 100 gms of each in 2 litres of boiling water. This should be diluted with equal measure of plain water and spray on plants. This definitely obliterates scales, mealy bugs and spider mites without staining the plants .
Thanks for the recipe, I am going to use it on a lime tree I just moved out a few weeks ago. I discovered a healthy scale population today! Yuk!

by dennis on Sun, 2007-05-06 02:30
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Originally Posted by chaucigirl View Post
I have heard that orange oil works really well to eradicate ants from orchids and there pots. Also, if your orchids are on benches you can put cans around the legs with used motor oil in it and the ants won't cross it. I know this sounds gross but my husband raises bees and it works to keep ants out of the hives.
do not get caught up in hype about orange oil or lemon oil i build custom cabinets and in my line with finishes and cleaners for your cabinetsm alot of companies use the term orange oil as a ingerdient it is a hoax there is such little oil in an orange or lemon that to produce enough of it to be able to use would cost you a arm and a leg

by lyn on Sun, 2007-05-06 04:09
Has anyone used Orange Guard organic pesticide? I am thinking about trying it.

by chaucigirl on Sun, 2007-05-06 12:59
I am sorry, I meant orange guard, not orange oil. I asume orange guard contains orange oil. I have not used it as a pesticide but I heard it works!

by shaka on Wed, 2007-11-21 21:31
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyn View Post
Ants are the biggest problem I have. I grow out by our screened in pool in the summer and they are on all the new buds and growths after the sugar. I have used safer soap, neem oil, a mix of dawn, alchohol and vegetable oil but I have to use it every 2 or three days! I was thinking about trying orthene, a systemic, so I do not have to spray as much. I hate using chemicals so I have not done it yet. I am also considering calling in a professional but I have pets that roam the pool deck and yard and really do not want chemicals around them. Has anyone tried a good systemic pesticide? Since benlate killed everything, have they come out with a good systemic fungicide? ~L~
i have used it for years & never a problem

by Judith Fitzpatrick on Tue, 2008-03-25 10:08
Great to read your comments & suggestions on the control of these D & B's. Pesticides & insecticides vary from place, have been trying to get neem oil here (Australia) still looking.
Thanks again.
Judy

by R Srinivasan on Thu, 2008-03-27 15:56
Most of us bitten by orchidomania tend to get too greedy as evident from the irrepessible desire to own everything we find on print, flower shows and local nurseries. The end result is crowding of too many orchids within the limited space we have to grow them. Insects are only too happy to find a lots of place to hide and proliferate. A few of our readers have pets to which roam about freely in their conservatory and therefore cannot take the risk of poisonous pesticide being sprayed around. Try to tackle both the problems a little realistically. You surely will win half the battle here. We orchid growers ourself become a pest when we bite more than we can chew. Listing pesticides only becomes a secondary issue against this background.

by Joansorchid on Sun, 2008-11-16 22:16
I have just read this article because of something that happened this evening. I was sat at the computer and looked at the smallest Phal on the desk and a tiny white thing disappeared into the medium. I took it out to the kitchen and decided to have a look in the pot. Out comes the Phal a few dead roots but lots and lots of healthy ones! This is a chid I brought at the bootfair for 50p in the summer! It had been overwatered and had many dead roots. So kill or cure I cut them off and had one tiny healthy root and two not so good. I think these were what I cut of this evening. Anyway while the chid is on the bench I noticed a tiny what looked like a white wire worm. So out went all of the compost! I washed the pot in scalding water and then washed the roots of the phal and repotted! I took the glass outer container and the marble chips and scalded them too! Any ideas what my intruder was? Can I expect him back and will he be in my other chids?
Joan

by R Srinivasan on Tue, 2008-11-18 18:19
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Originally Posted by Joansorchid View Post
I have just read this article because of something that happened this evening. I was sat at the computer and looked at the smallest Phal on the desk and a tiny white thing disappeared into the medium. I took it out to the kitchen and decided to have a look in the pot. Out comes the Phal a few dead roots but lots and lots of healthy ones! This is a chid I brought at the bootfair for 50p in the summer! It had been overwatered and had many dead roots. So kill or cure I cut them off and had one tiny healthy root and two not so good. I think these were what I cut of this evening. Anyway while the chid is on the bench I noticed a tiny what looked like a white wire worm. So out went all of the compost! I washed the pot in scalding water and then washed the roots of the phal and repotted! I took the glass outer container and the marble chips and scalded them too! Any ideas what my intruder was? Can I expect him back and will he be in my other chids?
Joan
All warm moist pots housing orchids also happen to be tiny zoological world. A variety of insects, their tiny predators coexist in such a comfortable protected space till you start flushing the pots with insecticide laced water. The creature you referred appears to be a silver fish roach which must have come from the book exhibition, for these creatures love old books rather your phals. I am sure it may move out soon. The other possibility is tiny centepede hatchlings which should cause you no worry. These will never grow big to sting you but all the same polish off a variety of smaller insects in the growing medium.

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