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Unique Mounting
By Randy at 2006-05-26 17:44


When I first started growing orchids I had a problem with over watering. This lead me into the path of mounting. People in my local orchid society love what I've done with my mountings and consider me the "local expert". Maybe I am the Southern New Jersey expert in mounting orchids because I have lots of practice at what works and what doesn't. But I am no "expert" by any means, I just have experience.

Certain genus of orchids do very well on mounts while others don't. Most Bulbophyllums & Oncidiums are both generally good to mount, as are some species of Dendrobium. When mounting take into consideration the size the plant will grow to, not the current size. Also, take into consideration the watering requirements & the growth habit of the plant. Do careful research before deciding what plants to mount

Cork & treefern are readily available. Sometimes you can also find other types of wood available on the Internet. However, the most interesting pieces you will find are generally those you will find on your own.

Use unique materials if you can. Fresh water provides some fabulous driftwood. I have found driftwood to always be unique. Some of the pieces I've found have had indentations where there were once rocks that made great spots for putting pads of sphagnum moss.

Grape wood also provides for some unique shapes, sometimes it even comes with holes. Other wood that can be found with unique shapes are Rhododendrons & Mountain Laurels. Azalea wood never really gets large enough for mounting anything but a miniature.

If you live in an area where Cacti grow naturally large you can sometimes find the skelatal remains of one. They are expensive to buy and difficult to find on the Internet because they are all for lizards, but try one for mounting an orchid! You can fill it with ozmunda fiber or sphagnum and have yourself a great mount. Certainly a unique one.

Some of my personal favorites are root stock, especially if they've been through fresh water for a while. But even if they come straight out of the ground they can be used, you just need to let the wood season. I have also used Bald Cypress Knees for large specimens.

There are certain woods to avoid because of toxins. The majority of fruit trees, at least those that grow in the Northeastern USA contain cyanide which is in the wood just below the bark. Certain species of Oaks have concentrated amounts of tannic acid in their leaves and bark, so they should be avoided also...

Always remember to let any fresh wood thoroughly dry out before using it to mount on. This way you avoid sap and the mold that can come during the drying process. Mounted orchids do take some extra care, so be aware of that, but they can also be very rewarding because they can be a work of art.

Please see my mounted orchids in the folder Randys Pics May 2006. There are a couple of very unique Bulbophyllums in there.

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by Tindomul on Fri, 2006-05-26 18:57
Thanks,

I also believe it is important to know what types, and what sizes of wood to use when mounting orchids. I haven't tried my hand at doing this yet, but hope to soon!

by beck on Mon, 2006-06-12 07:36
Thank you so much for this info. I have spent ages searching the net for info on mounting orchids in interesting ways. As all my orchids are outside. In far northern Australia our living areas are also mostly outside!! Is there anywhere I can see more photos of mountings you have done?

by littlefrog on Mon, 2006-06-12 13:57
Speaking of mounting, does anybody but me use silicone caulk to stick plants onto mounts? Seems to work so far, and far quicker than fishing line or wire...

Haven't tried it with all orchids, but the ones I've done seem to be ok.

by Tindomul on Mon, 2006-06-12 16:49
How much do you use?

by littlefrog on Mon, 2006-06-12 17:53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindomul1of9
How much do you use?
As little as I can get away with and still have the plant stick... A little squirt from the caulk gun on a mount, let that sit for a minute or two to set up, and then press the plant into the caulk. If it is possible to lay down the mount and not have the plant fall off, that is what I do, until the caulk sets (15-20 minutes or so).

I haven't experimented with different colors of caulk, lately I've been using clear. But brown might work well on sticks...

by Tindomul on Mon, 2006-06-12 20:12
True, brown will look better, but maybe you can disguise the silicone with some dry sphagnum moss bits, or coco bedding.of some kind.

I can't wait to start mounting stuff. I just need to find orchids to mount. Hehe.

by littlefrog on Mon, 2006-06-12 20:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindomul1of9
True, brown will look better, but maybe you can disguise the silicone with some dry sphagnum moss bits, or coco bedding.of some kind.

I can't wait to start mounting stuff. I just need to find orchids to mount. Hehe.
I've done that... it is best to apply a little moss when the silicone is still sticky. Saves a step.

Rob

by beck on Tue, 2006-06-13 01:11
Another good medium to mount on (I hope as I have only just tried it but it seems to be working) Is coconut halves. However i guess it helps to have a large number of coconuts on hand to do this. I have alot of coconut trees and therefore quite a few coconuts falling on to my roof and on to the ground just begging to be used!

by Tindomul on Tue, 2006-06-13 01:47
Coconut halves with chunky coconut husks right?
Most coconuts I get to see here in NY are bald.

by beck on Tue, 2006-06-13 02:09
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindomul1of9
Coconut halves with chunky coconut husks right?
Most coconuts I get to see here in NY are bald.
Yep. When they fall off the tree they are bald. Then chain saw in half. (My partner glares at me and then silently goes off to do this shaking his head when I ask him, so I take it this is not all that easy.) Then if there is coconut flesh inside scoop it out and fill with something I use volcanic stones. You then have a flat fiborous surface to mount on. I'll post a photo when I figure out how to post photos, I've never used a discussion board before!!

by Paul on Tue, 2006-07-11 21:14
Although I haven't tried it, I imagine that a hot glue gun would also work as long as the glue was allowed to cool slightly before adding the plant. Would set faster than caulk.

by Tindomul on Wed, 2006-07-12 02:11
Paul I think so too. If I ever try adhesive again I will use your method.

by justatypn on Wed, 2006-07-12 02:29
Randy, great article. I have been doing some research on mounting ('chid space is of the essence) and what comes to mind is I have property on an island on the east coast of Fl and within our island and surrounding islands we come across some pretty awesome shapes and forms of drift wood. My only thought about using the driftwood is the enviromental conditions of salt water. The pieces we come across are awesome, what would you recommend to soak and or do with these pieces, certainly saturated by the salty sea air/water etc.

by jags on Fri, 2006-09-29 07:46
Walking through the orchid shops in Chatchuk market area in Bangkok I found this great orchid mounts that they were selling. They go through an elaborate process of converting raw coconut husks into mounting mediums..



The above picture shows how babay plants are raised in the cocoblock medium..

we have tried use of several mounting systems and still the fernblocks are the best to use as the orchids seems to catch on tehm pretty fast.
JAGS

by littlefrog on Fri, 2006-09-29 13:15
We have that in the US too. We call them 'coconut chips'. They come in three or four graded sizes in compressed bales. A good substitute for bark, but you need to wash the bejeezus out of them before use.

by DaveD on Fri, 2006-12-15 02:25
I too am a believer in mouting orchids, they seem to do better. Some seem to prefer not being in a pot such as C. aclandiae, mine did not bloom until it grew out of the pot. I have used Cypress, grapevine, tree fern slabs, wood baskets turned upside down, and anything that looks good to me. I have also used large chunks of cork bark in a wood basket or tree fern chunks in a wood basket. Have always believed in orchids needing air so transplant all of mine in wood baskets, they bloom better when the roots grow outside the basket. I have used 'Liquid Nail' to mount some of mine. I really enjoyed your article on mounting and picked up some new ideas, good article.

by Tesa on Wed, 2006-12-20 15:24
Yes, mounting needs experience. Orchids that like it wet, will grow perfectly on tree fern. But I donīt buy it anymore because of protecting the endangered population. We threaten the ferns, so donīt forget: There are no fern plantations! The ones who like to dry rapidly I mount on bark. Cork bark is good, walnut is great and normally gratis. Other fruit-tree bark like apple or peach wil do it fine as well. And there are good results on driftwood, oakwood....there are a plenty of factors, and you have to have a kind of sure instinct or green thumb. And donīt forget the moss base, what kind of moss and so on.
Donīt be shy! Mount!

Tesa

by bodaciousbonsai on Fri, 2006-12-22 13:23
You guys wanna know what makes a perfect mount for the quick dryers. Take a terra cotta dish for a pot drill a hole through, add your coat hanger for hanging add modest helping of sphagnum, add orchid, zip tie black works good or green your choice. I soak em once a week then spray.
Clay

by Spider on Tue, 2008-01-15 21:50
I would like to know if somebody have used corknuggets for growing Cattleya, not on a mount but in a pot? Can you in that case tell me about your experience?

by Posey on Tue, 2008-01-15 23:17
I have some things on hyperturfa slabs too that are pretty cool. The slabs that I have were purchased on e-bay and were made for orchids or bromalids. All of them but one has a piece of driftwood embedded in it that the plant starts out on. One of them is plain and I wired a piece of lava rock to it (through the holes that were already there) to mount a Laelia milleri on.

I recently, and regretably, found out that grape vine is disasterous to use in the Gulf Coast area. LOL. I use a lot of crepe myrtle though,,,which I really like. I have several HUGE myrtle trees and just use the stuff I trim off.

I'm gonna start making my own hyperturfa mounting things. I like the fact that I can embed stuff in there and it may rot out but the mount is basically permanent.

by bodaciousbonsai on Wed, 2008-01-16 04:53
If your going to use cork nuggets, I would suggest that you soak them for a day or two. I grow all my cat's in shallow bonsai pots. they seem to love it!

by DaveD on Fri, 2008-01-18 04:12
Quote:
Originally Posted by bodaciousbonsai View Post
If your going to use cork nuggets, I would suggest that you soak them for a day or two. I grow all my cat's in shallow bonsai pots. they seem to love it!
I use cork bark slabs to mount orchids on, they seem to grab hold faster and more solidly

by Spider on Fri, 2008-01-18 20:33
I agree, but not all, I have a Dendrobium pendulum on old oak bark, cork. It does stay on the mount but not as tight as the Laelias or Tolumnia. The Laelias realy cling tightly

by Tsuchibuta on Sat, 2008-02-02 04:07
A guy that just recently joined our society after moving from the east coast did a lecture on semi hydro growing and also talked about making artificial mounts out of that black plastic fencing you can get at home depot. He rolled them into coils and filled them with a mixture of hydro rocks, coconut chips, and a little moss to get them started. He had hundreds of them and the plants grew great on them and the best part is you can add more mount if the plant over takes the mount. It is like a mount that grows with the plant. I will see if I can locate some photos. I bought a few from him late last fall and have been waiting anxiously for spring growth to arrive so I can try a few for myself.

by Becca on Sat, 2008-02-02 07:05
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider View Post
I would like to know if somebody have used corknuggets for growing Cattleya, not on a mount but in a pot? Can you in that case tell me about your experience?
I have recently purchased a mixture that contains cork nuggets. I have only been using it for about a month. So far the Cattleya mixture with cork nuggets seems to dry out very quickly and I grow in an orchidarium with good humidity. I am needing to water about twice a week. I am also ussing cork nuggets with phal's in a mixture of spag moss and sponge rock. So far I really like the mixture for the phals more then the mixture for the Cattleya which is made up of cork nuggets, alifor, and sponge rock if I remember correctly. I have also found with the Cattleya mixture that I can't soak my 'chids in their pot or every thing just floats up. Hope this helps!

by zlessley on Sun, 2008-04-27 16:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tesa View Post
Yes, mounting needs experience. Orchids that like it wet, will grow perfectly on tree fern. But I donīt buy it anymore because of protecting the endangered population. We threaten the ferns, so donīt forget: There are no fern plantations! The ones who like to dry rapidly I mount on bark. Cork bark is good, walnut is great and normally gratis. Other fruit-tree bark like apple or peach wil do it fine as well. And there are good results on driftwood, oakwood....there are a plenty of factors, and you have to have a kind of sure instinct or green thumb. And donīt forget the moss base, what kind of moss and so on.
Donīt be shy! Mount!

Tesa
Hey Tesa, I wanted to mention that although your logic sounds..sound, many people think the same thing about cork. Most of the tree ferns that are used are already dead, and clearing them out of the forest gives more room and light for new tree ferns. When they harvest the deadfall, they are required (at least is OZ) to be careful of the crown and leave any growing epiphytes.
People were (and still are) saying that cork is endangered and we shouldn't use it... it's in danger because we DON'T use it, the wine industry has been switching more to plastic based stoppers, which has put the cork growers out of business. Cork forests (plantations, whatever) have some of the most diverse and area specific life in the world (basically, many plants and animals can only live in these forests!)

I may be wrong about the tree ferns, maybe they're wreaking havoc on that ecosystem but I have yet to see any evidence.

(reading here) actually the main problem to tree ferns would be clearcutting. So if the companies who harvest them want to stay in business, they'll have to fight against clearcutting and keep them alive...

by Spider on Tue, 2008-07-01 23:16
I have a Tolumnia variegata mounted on Epiweb. The plant i doing fine, in fact is flowering right now with 2 spikes.

by bodaciousbonsai on Wed, 2008-07-02 08:12
Hello, I was wondering on your culture conditions for the toluminia variegata. I have a trade in progress for a division of this species of orchid. Do they need 3500 -6000 fc to flower or do they require a low temp drop at night with high or low humidity. I have read that this orchid is difficult.

by ericst11 on Thu, 2008-07-03 05:25
no but i use liquid nail and it works geat some one i know use to own a succulent farm told me about it .and told me they made a prouduct for mounting and it basicly was liquid nail seems to work great

by Spider on Thu, 2008-07-03 08:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by bodaciousbonsai View Post
Hello, I was wondering on your culture conditions for the toluminia variegata. I have a trade in progress for a division of this species of orchid. Do they need 3500 -6000 fc to flower or do they require a low temp drop at night with high or low humidity. I have read that this orchid is difficult.
Hallo, I wish I was an electrician. I donīt know anyting about it. I grow it with my Cattleyas, and it is hanging indoors in my window that is facing south-east. I have 3 halogen spotlights mounted on the window. They are grown indoors all year round, but my flat is very warm during the summer, upp to 30C.
In winter days it is about 22C and 19C at nights.
I try to maintain a humidity not lower then 60%, but there are short times it has dropped to 40% and sometimes when there has been a period of rain, it has been up to 80%.
I use only filtered water.
I have had no problem growing it

by greenbean on Thu, 2008-11-06 06:11
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Originally Posted by beck View Post
Yep. When they fall off the tree they are bald. Then chain saw in half. (My partner glares at me and then silently goes off to do this shaking his head when I ask him, so I take it this is not all that easy.) Then if there is coconut flesh inside scoop it out and fill with something I use volcanic stones. You then have a flat fiborous surface to mount on. I'll post a photo when I figure out how to post photos, I've never used a discussion board before!!
I have a coconut half that I've been meaning to use! It is going to be home to a Maxillaria tenuifolia, aka coconut orchid. What better place to put it?

Do you think the volcanic rock would work for Maxillaria? Mine seems to like a little more moisture than some orchids, but the volcanic rock would look really nice.

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